Re: [Txauth] GNAP it is
Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> Mon, 15 June 2020 19:38 UTC
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From: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>
To: "vittorio.bertocci@auth0.com" <vittorio.bertocci@auth0.com>, 'Dick Hardt' <dick.hardt@gmail.com>, 'Peter Saint-Andre' <stpeter@mozilla.com>
CC: 'Jared Jennings' <jaredljennings@gmail.com>, 'Amanjeev Sethi' <aj@amanjeev.com>, 'Fabien Imbault' <fabien.imbault@gmail.com>, "txauth@ietf.org" <txauth@ietf.org>
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I don’t care a lot one way or the other. My main point is that no matter what guidance we give, many people are likely to pronounce the “G”. If we try to insist on it being silent, we should get used to the fact that we’ll probably be hearing both pronunciations. -- Mike P.S. Thanks for the Smurfs link, Vittorio! From: vittorio.bertocci@auth0.com <vittorio.bertocci@auth0.com> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 12:25 PM To: 'Dick Hardt' <dick.hardt@gmail.com>; 'Peter Saint-Andre' <stpeter@mozilla.com> Cc: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>; 'Jared Jennings' <jaredljennings@gmail.com>; 'Amanjeev Sethi' <aj@amanjeev.com>; 'Fabien Imbault' <fabien.imbault@gmail.com>; txauth@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Txauth] GNAP it is Perhaps not to be taken too seriously, but here’s prior art on GNAP pronunciation. As Leif mentioned few mails ago, “GNAP” appeared on the Smurfs comic and was reprised in a cartoon episode as well. You’ll find few examples around 3:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEl8IBv98vg&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0GVfFeNl4M1OhHKE7FfyCqKTDJI960mU-ai8hLqMO8A_qzCS-WBJgPbpQ From: Txauth <txauth-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:txauth-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Dick Hardt Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 12:18 PM To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com<mailto:stpeter@mozilla.com>> Cc: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com<mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>>; Jared Jennings <jaredljennings@gmail.com<mailto:jaredljennings@gmail.com>>; Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com<mailto:aj@amanjeev.com>>; Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com<mailto:fabien.imbault@gmail.com>>; txauth@ietf.org<mailto:txauth@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Txauth] GNAP it is Checking in again on pronunciation. Mike: do you still have concerns with a silent 'G'? Anyone else have concerns? I'd like to nip pronunciation confusion in the bud by having the recommended pronunciation in the charter. ᐧ On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 1:23 PM Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com<mailto:stpeter@mozilla.com>> wrote: Looks like we were caught gnapping. ;-) OK, that's the last of my snarky comments, let's get to work! Peter On 6/7/20 2:09 PM, Dick Hardt wrote: > It is if you are familiar with any of the GNU projects. > > https://www.gnu.org/gnu/pronunciation.en.html > > A quick search on the internet has the "normal" pronunciation of "gnu" > to have a silent 'g'. > > https://www.howtopronounce.com/gnu > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/gnu > > > ᐧ > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 12:51 PM Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com<mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> > <mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com<mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>>> wrote: > > I had assumed Guh-Nap – parallel to the pronunciation of GNU. I > think that’s the most natural way to read it.____ > > __ __ > > -- Mike____ > > __ __ > > *From:* Txauth <txauth-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:txauth-bounces@ietf.org> > <mailto:txauth-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:txauth-bounces@ietf.org>>> *On Behalf Of *Dick Hardt > *Sent:* Sunday, June 7, 2020 12:45 PM > *To:* Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com<mailto:aj@amanjeev.com> <mailto:aj@amanjeev.com<mailto:aj@amanjeev.com>>> > *Cc:* Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com<mailto:fabien.imbault@gmail.com> > <mailto:fabien.imbault@gmail.com<mailto:fabien.imbault@gmail.com>>>; Jared Jennings > <jaredljennings@gmail.com<mailto:jaredljennings@gmail.com> <mailto:jaredljennings@gmail.com<mailto:jaredljennings@gmail.com>>>; > txauth@ietf.org<mailto:txauth@ietf.org> <mailto:txauth@ietf.org<mailto:txauth@ietf.org>> > *Subject:* Re: [Txauth] GNAP it is____ > > __ __ > > Anyone have objection to the recommended pronunciation being the > English word "nap", as in "gnaw"?____ > > __ __ > > If not, then we could add a pronunciation recommendation to the > Charter.____ > > __ __ > > ᐧ____ > > __ __ > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:03 AM Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com<mailto:aj@amanjeev.com> > <mailto:aj@amanjeev.com<mailto:aj@amanjeev.com>>> wrote:____ > > Vote for 'G' silent, as in 'lagnappe' ;)____ > > __ __ > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Jared Jennings wrote:____ > > I vote for G silent. For the reason it's most common to > pronounce, especially for those not familiar with open > source usages.____ > > __ __ > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 08:45 Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com<mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com> > <mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com<mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com>>> wrote:____ > > The obvious pronunciation choices are:____ > > __ __ > > nap (silent g as in gnaw)____ > > __ __ > > guh-nap (as in the GNU OS > - https://www.gnu.org/gnu/pronunciation.en..html > <https://www.gnu.org/gnu/pronunciation.en.html>)____ > > __ __ > > gee-nap (as in G-man - government man > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-man)____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > ᐧ____ > > __ __ > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 1:34 AM Fabien Imbault > <fabien.imbault@gmail.com<mailto:fabien.imbault@gmail.com> > <mailto:fabien.imbault@gmail.com<mailto:fabien.imbault@gmail.com>>> wrote:____ > > So, let's adopt a GNAP! We can even come with a > little mascot (a bit like go gopher) as imagined > by http://elisegravel.com/blog/adopte-un-gnap/, > loved by little Canadians :-) ____ > > __ __ > > Just to be sure, how do you recommand we pronounce > it? ____ > > __ __ > > Looking forward to the next steps too.. ____ > > __ __ > > Thxs____ > > Fabien____ > > --____ > > Txauth mailing list____ > > Txauth@ietf.org<mailto:Txauth@ietf.org> <mailto:Txauth@ietf.org<mailto:Txauth@ietf.org>>____ > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth____ > > --____ > > Txauth mailing list____ > > Txauth@ietf.org<mailto:Txauth@ietf.org> <mailto:Txauth@ietf.org<mailto:Txauth@ietf.org>>____ > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth____ > > -- ____ > > Txauth mailing list____ > > Txauth@ietf.org<mailto:Txauth@ietf.org> <mailto:Txauth@ietf.org<mailto:Txauth@ietf.org>>____ > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > >
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