Re: [Txauth] GNAP it is

Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> Mon, 15 June 2020 19:42 UTC

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From: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:42:24 -0700
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Hi Mike

I agree that some people will mispronounce it, but if there is a
recommended pronunciation, then there will be consistency amongst those of
us that know it rather than inconsistency between us.




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On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:38 PM Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>
wrote:

> I don’t care a lot one way or the other.  My main point is that no matter
> what guidance we give, many people are likely to pronounce the “G”.  If we
> try to insist on it being silent, we should get used to the fact that we’ll
> probably be hearing both pronunciations.
>
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>                                                        -- Mike
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> P.S.  Thanks for the Smurfs link, Vittorio!
>
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> *From:* vittorio.bertocci@auth0.com <vittorio.bertocci@auth0.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 12:25 PM
> *To:* 'Dick Hardt' <dick.hardt@gmail.com>; 'Peter Saint-Andre' <
> stpeter@mozilla.com>
> *Cc:* Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>; 'Jared Jennings' <
> jaredljennings@gmail.com>; 'Amanjeev Sethi' <aj@amanjeev.com>; 'Fabien
> Imbault' <fabien.imbault@gmail.com>; txauth@ietf.org
> *Subject:* RE: [Txauth] GNAP it is
>
>
>
> Perhaps not to be taken too seriously, but here’s prior art on GNAP
> pronunciation.
>
> As Leif mentioned few mails ago, “GNAP” appeared on the Smurfs comic and
> was reprised in a cartoon episode as well.
>
> You’ll find few examples around 3:30
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEl8IBv98vg&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0GVfFeNl4M1OhHKE7FfyCqKTDJI960mU-ai8hLqMO8A_qzCS-WBJgPbpQ
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> *From:* Txauth <txauth-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Dick Hardt
> *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 12:18 PM
> *To:* Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
> *Cc:* Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>; Jared Jennings <
> jaredljennings@gmail.com>; Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com>; Fabien
> Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com>; txauth@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Txauth] GNAP it is
>
>
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> Checking in again on pronunciation.
>
>
>
> Mike: do you still have concerns with a silent 'G'?
>
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> Anyone else have concerns?
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> I'd like to nip pronunciation confusion in the bud by having the
> recommended pronunciation in the charter.
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> ᐧ
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> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 1:23 PM Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
> wrote:
>
> Looks like we were caught gnapping. ;-)
>
> OK, that's the last of my snarky comments, let's get to work!
>
> Peter
>
> On 6/7/20 2:09 PM, Dick Hardt wrote:
> > It is if you are familiar with any of the GNU projects.
> >
> > https://www.gnu.org/gnu/pronunciation.en.html
> >
> > A quick search on the internet has the "normal" pronunciation of "gnu"
> > to have a silent 'g'.
> >
> > https://www.howtopronounce.com/gnu
> > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/gnu
> >
> >
> > ᐧ
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 12:51 PM Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com
> > <mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     I had assumed Guh-Nap – parallel to the pronunciation of GNU.  I
> >     think that’s the most natural way to read it.____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >                                                            -- Mike____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     *From:* Txauth <txauth-bounces@ietf.org
> >     <mailto:txauth-bounces@ietf.org>> *On Behalf Of *Dick Hardt
> >     *Sent:* Sunday, June 7, 2020 12:45 PM
> >     *To:* Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com <mailto:aj@amanjeev.com>>
> >     *Cc:* Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com
> >     <mailto:fabien.imbault@gmail.com>>; Jared Jennings
> >     <jaredljennings@gmail.com <mailto:jaredljennings@gmail.com>>;
> >     txauth@ietf.org <mailto:txauth@ietf.org>
> >     *Subject:* Re: [Txauth] GNAP it is____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     Anyone have objection to the recommended pronunciation being the
> >     English word "nap", as in "gnaw"?____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     If not, then we could add a pronunciation recommendation to the
> >     Charter.____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     ᐧ____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:03 AM Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com
> >     <mailto:aj@amanjeev.com>> wrote:____
> >
> >         Vote for 'G' silent, as in 'lagnappe' ;)____
> >
> >         __ __
> >
> >         On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Jared Jennings wrote:____
> >
> >             I vote for G silent. For the reason it's most common to
> >             pronounce, especially for those not familiar with open
> >             source usages.____
> >
> >             __ __
> >
> >             On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 08:45 Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com
> >             <mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com>> wrote:____
> >
> >                 The obvious pronunciation choices are:____
> >
> >                 __ __
> >
> >                 nap (silent g as in gnaw)____
> >
> >                 __ __
> >
> >                 guh-nap (as in the GNU OS
> >                 - https://www.gnu.org/gnu/pronunciation.en..html
> >                 <https://www.gnu.org/gnu/pronunciation.en.html>)____
> >
> >                 __ __
> >
> >                 gee-nap (as in G-man - government man
> >                 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-man)____
> >
> >                 __ __
> >
> >                 __ __
> >
> >                 __ __
> >
> >                 ᐧ____
> >
> >                 __ __
> >
> >                 On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 1:34 AM Fabien Imbault
> >                 <fabien.imbault@gmail.com
> >                 <mailto:fabien.imbault@gmail.com>> wrote:____
> >
> >                     So, let's adopt a GNAP! We can even come with a
> >                     little mascot (a bit like go gopher) as imagined
> >                     by http://elisegravel.com/blog/adopte-un-gnap/,
> >                     loved by little Canadians :-) ____
> >
> >                     __ __
> >
> >                     Just to be sure, how do you recommand we pronounce
> >                     it? ____
> >
> >                     __ __
> >
> >                     Looking forward to the next steps too.. ____
> >
> >                     __ __
> >
> >                     Thxs____
> >
> >                     Fabien____
> >
> >                     --____
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