Re: [Txauth] GNAP it is
Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> Mon, 15 June 2020 19:42 UTC
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From: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:42:24 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Txauth] GNAP it is
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Hi Mike I agree that some people will mispronounce it, but if there is a recommended pronunciation, then there will be consistency amongst those of us that know it rather than inconsistency between us. ᐧ On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:38 PM Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> wrote: > I don’t care a lot one way or the other. My main point is that no matter > what guidance we give, many people are likely to pronounce the “G”. If we > try to insist on it being silent, we should get used to the fact that we’ll > probably be hearing both pronunciations. > > > > -- Mike > > > > P.S. Thanks for the Smurfs link, Vittorio! > > > > *From:* vittorio.bertocci@auth0.com <vittorio.bertocci@auth0.com> > *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 12:25 PM > *To:* 'Dick Hardt' <dick.hardt@gmail.com>; 'Peter Saint-Andre' < > stpeter@mozilla.com> > *Cc:* Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>; 'Jared Jennings' < > jaredljennings@gmail.com>; 'Amanjeev Sethi' <aj@amanjeev.com>; 'Fabien > Imbault' <fabien.imbault@gmail.com>; txauth@ietf.org > *Subject:* RE: [Txauth] GNAP it is > > > > Perhaps not to be taken too seriously, but here’s prior art on GNAP > pronunciation. > > As Leif mentioned few mails ago, “GNAP” appeared on the Smurfs comic and > was reprised in a cartoon episode as well. > > You’ll find few examples around 3:30 > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEl8IBv98vg&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0GVfFeNl4M1OhHKE7FfyCqKTDJI960mU-ai8hLqMO8A_qzCS-WBJgPbpQ > > > > *From:* Txauth <txauth-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Dick Hardt > *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 12:18 PM > *To:* Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> > *Cc:* Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>; Jared Jennings < > jaredljennings@gmail.com>; Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com>; Fabien > Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com>; txauth@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Txauth] GNAP it is > > > > Checking in again on pronunciation. > > > > Mike: do you still have concerns with a silent 'G'? > > > > Anyone else have concerns? > > > > I'd like to nip pronunciation confusion in the bud by having the > recommended pronunciation in the charter. > > > > > > ᐧ > > > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 1:23 PM Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> > wrote: > > Looks like we were caught gnapping. ;-) > > OK, that's the last of my snarky comments, let's get to work! > > Peter > > On 6/7/20 2:09 PM, Dick Hardt wrote: > > It is if you are familiar with any of the GNU projects. > > > > https://www.gnu.org/gnu/pronunciation.en.html > > > > A quick search on the internet has the "normal" pronunciation of "gnu" > > to have a silent 'g'. > > > > https://www.howtopronounce.com/gnu > > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/gnu > > > > > > ᐧ > > > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 12:51 PM Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com > > <mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>> wrote: > > > > I had assumed Guh-Nap – parallel to the pronunciation of GNU. I > > think that’s the most natural way to read it.____ > > > > __ __ > > > > -- Mike____ > > > > __ __ > > > > *From:* Txauth <txauth-bounces@ietf.org > > <mailto:txauth-bounces@ietf.org>> *On Behalf Of *Dick Hardt > > *Sent:* Sunday, June 7, 2020 12:45 PM > > *To:* Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com <mailto:aj@amanjeev.com>> > > *Cc:* Fabien Imbault <fabien.imbault@gmail.com > > <mailto:fabien.imbault@gmail.com>>; Jared Jennings > > <jaredljennings@gmail.com <mailto:jaredljennings@gmail.com>>; > > txauth@ietf.org <mailto:txauth@ietf.org> > > *Subject:* Re: [Txauth] GNAP it is____ > > > > __ __ > > > > Anyone have objection to the recommended pronunciation being the > > English word "nap", as in "gnaw"?____ > > > > __ __ > > > > If not, then we could add a pronunciation recommendation to the > > Charter.____ > > > > __ __ > > > > ᐧ____ > > > > __ __ > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:03 AM Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com > > <mailto:aj@amanjeev.com>> wrote:____ > > > > Vote for 'G' silent, as in 'lagnappe' ;)____ > > > > __ __ > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Jared Jennings wrote:____ > > > > I vote for G silent. For the reason it's most common to > > pronounce, especially for those not familiar with open > > source usages.____ > > > > __ __ > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 08:45 Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com > > <mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com>> wrote:____ > > > > The obvious pronunciation choices are:____ > > > > __ __ > > > > nap (silent g as in gnaw)____ > > > > __ __ > > > > guh-nap (as in the GNU OS > > - https://www.gnu.org/gnu/pronunciation.en..html > > <https://www.gnu.org/gnu/pronunciation.en.html>)____ > > > > __ __ > > > > gee-nap (as in G-man - government man > > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-man)____ > > > > __ __ > > > > __ __ > > > > __ __ > > > > ᐧ____ > > > > __ __ > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 1:34 AM Fabien Imbault > > <fabien.imbault@gmail.com > > <mailto:fabien.imbault@gmail.com>> wrote:____ > > > > So, let's adopt a GNAP! We can even come with a > > little mascot (a bit like go gopher) as imagined > > by http://elisegravel.com/blog/adopte-un-gnap/, > > loved by little Canadians :-) ____ > > > > __ __ > > > > Just to be sure, how do you recommand we pronounce > > it? ____ > > > > __ __ > > > > Looking forward to the next steps too.. ____ > > > > __ __ > > > > Thxs____ > > > > Fabien____ > > > > --____ > > > > Txauth mailing list____ > > > > Txauth@ietf.org <mailto:Txauth@ietf.org>____ > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth____ > > > > --____ > > > > Txauth mailing list____ > > > > Txauth@ietf.org <mailto:Txauth@ietf.org>____ > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth____ > > > > -- ____ > > > > Txauth mailing list____ > > > > Txauth@ietf.org <mailto:Txauth@ietf.org>____ > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth____ > > > > __ __ > > > > __ __ > > > > > >
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