Re: [Udp35] Trying to learn about udp35

Michael Welzl <> Wed, 21 May 2014 17:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Udp35] Trying to learn about udp35
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Hi all,

Glad to be onboard!

As for the slide deck, it looks very interesting but it also reminds me of much that we have already discussed in the TAPS effort. Note that this non-WG-forming BOF in London was preceded by a bar BOF, which was preceded by more work ... e.g. we have worked out a draft charter at some point, and agreed to do things pretty similar to what seems to be proposed in these slides. Now surely I'm missing the bigger picture here, but I'd like to make a plea to not go back to square one but instead continue from where things already are at (see ). If this means having a WG-forming BoF in Toronto, then I guess it's about time to get this organized.

I can imagine that we want to do more than what we have written into our charter, but what I'm suggesting is not to wait with piece A of the puzzle just because we in fact want pieces A, B and perhaps C too, and we have to still find out if/how to do pieces B and C. I'm having a hard time imagining that piece A just won't fit, whatever B and C may look like, so why not get A done?!


On 21. mai 2014, at 12:30, Brian Trammell <> wrote:

> hi Jana, all,
> Apologies for silence to date on this point; I'm traveling way too much this month. The basic problem statement is hidden in the slide deck I presented at the IESG/IAB meeting in Cancun, attached. We'll want to have a level setting call (most probably early next week) to expand upon this.
> Cheers,
> Brian
> <udp35-cancun.pdf>
> On 20 May 2014, at 19:54, Jana Iyengar <> wrote:
>> Thanks for the update, Spencer; I'll look for the poll. I would like to make travel arrangements soon, and I'm waiting to hear about when the pre-IETF meeting will be held so that I can book accordingly. I'd like to book soon, so I hope to hear about the schedule soon ... but if nothing's been finalized yet, I understand.
>> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Spencer Dawkins <> wrote:
>> On 05/13/2014 10:47 AM, Jana Iyengar wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I'm writing to learn more about udp35 and the secret cabal meeting that is allegedly happening Saturday evening before the IETF. Can someone post a link or some summary of the goals of this group?
>> Thanks much!
>> - jana
>> Hi, Jana,
>> If I understood correctly, the plan is that we'll schedule a conference call Real Soon Now to level-set folks, just as soon as someone sends out a doodle poll so we can figure out when :-)
>> So, please stay tuned ...
>> Spencer
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