Re: [Udp35] Trying to learn about udp35

"Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" <> Wed, 21 May 2014 17:26 UTC

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I think we're way too early for a WG-forming BoF.  Let's get together
informally to discuss what has been done to date, and see if there's a way
to progress forward.

I think Brian and I had discussed doing this Saturday night before the
Toronto meeting, but I'm open to other suggestions.

On 5/21/14, 11:05 AM, "Michael Welzl" <> wrote:

>Hi all,
>Glad to be onboard!
>As for the slide deck, it looks very interesting but it also reminds me
>of much that we have already discussed in the TAPS effort. Note that this
>non-WG-forming BOF in London was preceded by a bar BOF, which was
>preceded by more work ... e.g. we have worked out a draft charter at some
>point, and agreed to do things pretty similar to what seems to be
>proposed in these slides. Now surely I'm missing the bigger picture here,
>but I'd like to make a plea to not go back to square one but instead
>continue from where things already are at (see
> ). If this means
>having a WG-forming BoF in Toronto, then I guess it's about time to get
>this organized.
>I can imagine that we want to do more than what we have written into our
>charter, but what I'm suggesting is not to wait with piece A of the
>puzzle just because we in fact want pieces A, B and perhaps C too, and we
>have to still find out if/how to do pieces B and C. I'm having a hard
>time imagining that piece A just won't fit, whatever B and C may look
>like, so why not get A done?!
>On 21. mai 2014, at 12:30, Brian Trammell <> wrote:
>> hi Jana, all,
>> Apologies for silence to date on this point; I'm traveling way too much
>>this month. The basic problem statement is hidden in the slide deck I
>>presented at the IESG/IAB meeting in Cancun, attached. We'll want to
>>have a level setting call (most probably early next week) to expand upon
>> Cheers,
>> Brian
>> <udp35-cancun.pdf>
>> On 20 May 2014, at 19:54, Jana Iyengar <> wrote:
>>> Thanks for the update, Spencer; I'll look for the poll. I would like
>>>to make travel arrangements soon, and I'm waiting to hear about when
>>>the pre-IETF meeting will be held so that I can book accordingly. I'd
>>>like to book soon, so I hope to hear about the schedule soon ... but if
>>>nothing's been finalized yet, I understand.
>>> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Spencer Dawkins
>>><> wrote:
>>> On 05/13/2014 10:47 AM, Jana Iyengar wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> I'm writing to learn more about udp35 and the secret cabal meeting
>>>that is allegedly happening Saturday evening before the IETF. Can
>>>someone post a link or some summary of the goals of this group?
>>> Thanks much!
>>> - jana
>>> Hi, Jana,
>>> If I understood correctly, the plan is that we'll schedule a
>>>conference call Real Soon Now to level-set folks, just as soon as
>>>someone sends out a doodle poll so we can figure out when :-)
>>> So, please stay tuned ...
>>> Spencer
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Joe Hildebrand