Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet drafts
Larry Masinter <masinter@parc.xerox.com> Wed, 02 April 1997 23:26 UTC
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Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 14:57:59 -0800
From: Larry Masinter <masinter@parc.xerox.com>
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Subject: Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet drafts
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In my personal judgement, there was significant controversy about adding to a Draft Standard document additional constraints that were not part of the Proposed Standard and are not implemented in at least two interoperable implementations. As I said, I edited the document to contain those changes that I thought were non-controversial. > URL creation mechanisms that generate the URL from a source which > is not restricted to a single character->octet encoding are > encouraged, but not required, to transition resource names toward > using UTF-8 exclusively. > URL creation mechanisms that generate the URL from a source which > is restricted to a single character->octet encoding should use UTF-8 > exclusively. If the source encoding is not UTF-8, then a mapping > between the source encoding and UTF-8 should be used. > This is an additional requirement that does not correspond, as far as I can tell, to any kind of "implementation experience". I know of no URL creation mechanisms that actually do this. Further, I think that the complaints that there is a certain amount of ambiguity in practice over exactly how one goes about doing this are legitimate, and that not only is there no "running code", there is not "rough consensus". > I'm surprised, too. I thought we had this worked out, and that > there was no significant objection or controversy. I hope that the domain name from which you post ("newbie.net") isn't some kind of joke. If you insist, I will forward you the three hundred or so email messages discussing the controversy around the proposed additions. Regards, Larry -- http://www.parc.xerox.com/masinter
- revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet dra… Larry Masinter
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Chris Newman
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Martin J. Duerst
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Edward Cherlin
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Larry Masinter
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Larry Masinter
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Chris Newman
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Martin J. Duerst
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Larry Masinter
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Jonathan Rosenne
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Edward Cherlin
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Larry Masinter
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Martin J. Duerst
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Larry Masinter
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Roy T. Fielding
- Re: revised "generic syntax" and "data:" internet… Dan Oscarsson
- Re: revised "generic syntax" internet draft Martin J. Duerst
- Re: revised "generic syntax" internet draft Roy T. Fielding
- Re: revised "generic syntax" internet draft Edward Cherlin
- Re: revised "generic syntax" internet draft Harald.T.Alvestrand
- Re: revised "generic syntax" internet draft Martin J. Duerst