Re: informal URN namespace identifiers

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Tue, 19 July 2011 21:44 UTC

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Cc: Leslie Daigle <leslie@thinkingcat.com>, Michelle Cotton <michelle.cotton@icann.org>, urn-nid@ietf.org
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OK, just asking. :)

On 7/19/11 3:41 PM, Michael Mealling wrote:
> +1 as well...
>
> If none are being requested I can't see it hurts that much to leave the file there...
>
> -MM
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> P.S.  Hi everyone! Yea, I'm still alive. Finishing up an MBA in December. Putting together a new space startup if all goes well...
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>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leslie Daigle"<leslie@thinkingcat.com>
> To: "Ted Hardie"<ted.ietf@gmail.com>
> Cc: urn-nid@ietf.org, "Michelle Cotton"<michelle.cotton@icann.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:34:56 PM
> Subject: Re: informal URN namespace identifiers
>
>
> +1
>
> Leslie.
>
> On 7/19/11 5:31 PM, Ted Hardie wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Peter Saint-Andre<stpeter@stpeter.im
>> <mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im>>  wrote:
>>
>>      The URN namespaces registry contains seven informal identifiers:
>>
>>      http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-1
>>      <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-1>
>>      http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-2
>>      <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-2>
>>      http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-3
>>      <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-3>
>>      http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-4
>>      <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-4>
>>      http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-5
>>      <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-5>
>>      http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-6
>>      <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-6>
>>      http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-7
>>      <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-7>
>>
>>      As far as I can see, these informal identifiers were mostly intended
>>      for experimental use. In several cases, the registrations were
>>      incomplete, see for instance:
>>
>>      "Registration date: TBD"
>>      "Declared registrant of the namespace:  TBD"
>>      "Note to RFC editor: replace xxx with the assigned 3 numeric digit
>>      identifier."
>>
>>      Do we know if these identifiers are in use? Is it worth the effort
>>      to clean up this part of the registry?
>>
>>
>> Looking at the registrations, it seems that there were folks actually
>> asserting their desire to use them at one time (1 might have been meant
>> as an example, since Michael was heavily involved in the creation of the
>> system; I can't tell there).
>>
>> But I'm not sure what you mean by "clean up" the registry.  These
>> numbers can't be re-used without breaking a fairly basic assumption of
>> the URN system.  Leaving the registrations there, even if incomplete,
>> seems better to me than removing them and leaving unaccounted holes in
>> the registry.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>      Peter
>>
>>      --
>>      Peter Saint-Andre
>>      https://stpeter.im/

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