Re: informal URN namespace identifiers
Benja Fallenstein <benja.fallenstein@gmail.com> Tue, 19 July 2011 22:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: informal URN namespace identifiers
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Hi Peter, urn-5 was intended for actual use, and there's software by our group publicly available that generates them internally and there are a few files on the web containing them. I don't know if anyone's using the software at the moment, quite possibly not, but I have in the past and may again -- not that I'd really expect noticeable breakage, but I think it would be quite a strange thing to do to un-assign an assigned URN namespace of all things! That said, if by "clean up" you mean inserting the parts IANA was supposed to insert, that could make sense (such as, according to the process as it was when urn-5 was registered, the registration date, and arguably the "replace xxx" part in the urn-7 registration, though IIRC when I last looked the process was to use a placeholder and tell the reader that. The urn-5 registration is actually still an example of that, which is probably an oversight on my part, since the registration was updated once and I could have inserted the actual identifier then.) All the best, - Benja On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote: > The URN namespaces registry contains seven informal identifiers: > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-1 > http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-2 > http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-3 > http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-4 > http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-5 > http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-6 > http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-7 > > As far as I can see, these informal identifiers were mostly intended for > experimental use. In several cases, the registrations were incomplete, see > for instance: > > "Registration date: TBD" > "Declared registrant of the namespace: TBD" > "Note to RFC editor: replace xxx with the assigned 3 numeric digit > identifier." > > Do we know if these identifiers are in use? Is it worth the effort to clean > up this part of the registry? > > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > >
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- Re: informal URN namespace identifiers Peter Saint-Andre