Re: informal URN namespace identifiers

Michael Mealling <michael@refactored-networks.com> Tue, 19 July 2011 21:41 UTC

Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:41:29 -0500
From: Michael Mealling <michael@refactored-networks.com>
To: Leslie Daigle <leslie@thinkingcat.com>
Subject: Re: informal URN namespace identifiers
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+1 as well...

If none are being requested I can't see it hurts that much to leave the file there...

-MM

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Leslie Daigle" <leslie@thinkingcat.com>
To: "Ted Hardie" <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: urn-nid@ietf.org, "Michelle Cotton" <michelle.cotton@icann.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:34:56 PM
Subject: Re: informal URN namespace identifiers


+1

Leslie.

On 7/19/11 5:31 PM, Ted Hardie wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im
> <mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im>> wrote:
>
>     The URN namespaces registry contains seven informal identifiers:
>
>     http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-1
>     <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-1>
>     http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-2
>     <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-2>
>     http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-3
>     <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-3>
>     http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-4
>     <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-4>
>     http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-5
>     <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-5>
>     http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-6
>     <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-6>
>     http://www.iana.org/__assignments/urn-informal/urn-7
>     <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-informal/urn-7>
>
>     As far as I can see, these informal identifiers were mostly intended
>     for experimental use. In several cases, the registrations were
>     incomplete, see for instance:
>
>     "Registration date: TBD"
>     "Declared registrant of the namespace:  TBD"
>     "Note to RFC editor: replace xxx with the assigned 3 numeric digit
>     identifier."
>
>     Do we know if these identifiers are in use? Is it worth the effort
>     to clean up this part of the registry?
>
>
> Looking at the registrations, it seems that there were folks actually
> asserting their desire to use them at one time (1 might have been meant
> as an example, since Michael was heavily involved in the creation of the
> system; I can't tell there).
>
> But I'm not sure what you mean by "clean up" the registry.  These
> numbers can't be re-used without breaking a fairly basic assumption of
> the URN system.  Leaving the registrations there, even if incomplete,
> seems better to me than removing them and leaving unaccounted holes in
> the registry.
>
> regards,
>
> Ted
>
>
>     Peter
>
>     --
>     Peter Saint-Andre
>     https://stpeter.im/
>
>
>

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