Re: informal URN namespace identifiers

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Tue, 19 July 2011 23:12 UTC

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On 7/19/11 4:21 PM, Benja Fallenstein wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> urn-5 was intended for actual use, and there's software by our group
> publicly available that generates them internally and there are a few
> files on the web containing them. I don't know if anyone's using the
> software at the moment, quite possibly not, but I have in the past and
> may again -- not that I'd really expect noticeable breakage, but I
> think it would be quite a strange thing to do to un-assign an assigned
> URN namespace of all things!
>
> That said, if by "clean up" you mean inserting the parts IANA was
> supposed to insert, that could make sense (such as, according to the
> process as it was when urn-5 was registered, the registration date,
> and arguably the "replace xxx" part in the urn-7 registration, though
> IIRC when I last looked the process was to use a placeholder and tell
> the reader that. The urn-5 registration is actually still an example
> of that, which is probably an oversight on my part, since the
> registration was updated once and I could have inserted the actual
> identifier then.)

Right, that's what I had in mind.

Peter

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