Re: [urn] Registration request for urn:eris: namespace

[Peter Saint-Andre <[e-mail]>]

Dale,

Thanks for your comments. Indeed, it's unclear to me why the ERIS system 
really needs to use URNs - why not use system-specific identifiers of 
some kind rather than the "persistent, location-independent resource 
identifiers" (RFC 8141) that URNs provide?

Peter

On 9/28/23 8:26 PM, Dale R. Worley wrote:
> My problem is that I have a continuing unease about the proposed
> namespace.  Probably the best summary I can make is that the proposed
> identifiers don't qualify as *names*.
> 
> Due to the large amount of entropy in the NSSs, an identifier that was
> created for one unit of information can never be mistakenly used to
> identify another unit of information even in another system.  But once
> you are outside of a particular Eris system they are not only unusable,
> but an individual identifier carries no discernible information.  About
> all you can tell is that the local Eris system does not contain any
> resource with that identifier, either because the identifier is from
> another Eris system or because the local resource it identifies was
> deleted.  This lack of any global significance strikes me as a
> fundamental contradiction with the concept of a global namespace.
> 
> A concrete consequence of this is that you'd never expect to see a
> urn:eris in a location where any other type of URI might appear, and
> vice-versa.  Their only use is as input to processes which can only
> handle Eris identifiers because they only have meaning within contexts
> that are Eris universes.
> 
> One solution to this is to add some sort of "Eris system" identification
> field to the URN.  E.g., instead of this (which is my interpretation of
> the example in 2.7.1)
> 
> urn:eris:H77AGSYKAVTQPUHODJTQA7WZPTWGTTKLRB2GLMF5H53NEKFJ3FUQ
> 
> use
> 
> urn:eris:eris.example.com:H77AGSYKAVTQPUHODJTQA7WZPTWGTTKLRB2GLMF5H53NEKFJ3FUQ
> 
> where eris.example.com is a DNS name that somehow identifies the Eris
> universe involved.  That approach allows straightforward differentiation
> of references to the local Eris universe vs. references to other Eris
> universes.  If some sort of protocol is assumed, it even becomes a URL.
> 
> Dale
> 
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