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Re: [urn] Registration request for urn:eris: namespace

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Subject: Re: [urn] Registration request for urn:eris: namespace
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Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> writes:
> Dale, I think what you and I are saying is threefold:
>
> 1. URNs aren't a great fit for the Eris system as currently designed.
>
> 2. Although the Eris designers *might* want to modify their system to 
> conform to URN requirements, that's their decision and we're by no means 
> insisting on it.
>
> 3. However, absent such a redesign, it seems better to use something 
> other than URNs in Eris.

Also, if it was clear the designers intended to revise the Eris scheme
to meet the requirements of a global name system, I would accept a
registration that made that clear but described only the "private use"
subset of the future name system.

Dale

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