[urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex
worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Tue, 01 May 2018 00:39 UTC
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My apologies for not working on this earlier. The current draft of "urn-lex" is draft-spinosa-urn-lex-12. People have criticized its proposed URN system in many ways, but it seems to me that most of the criticisms are "bibliographic", they concern good ways to create identifiers for written works. As such, the IETF is not a good forum for correcting most of those problems. My proposal is that we implement "rough consensus and running code" -- obtain a usable registration of the "lex" URN namespace so that the authors and ITTIG can put the "lex" URNs into practice. The process of using the URNs will educate the authors regarding the correct resolution of the various problems, and will likely cause them to later submit a revised registration. That is, the registration we create at this time will be understood to be experimental in nature. In order to be suitable as an "experimental" registration, there are a few problems that must be resolved: 1. The URN syntax must conform to the generic URN syntax. 2. The requirements of uniqueness and persistence must be met. (That is, any URN designates at most one resource, and the resource that it designates must not change over time. However, it is permissible to have multiple URNs designate the same resource.) 3. The process or authority that assigns each URN must be well-defined. Item 1 is taken care of, in that the syntax in -12 conforms (as far as I can tell) to the URN syntax in RFC 8141. Item 2 is the responsibility of the Jurisdictional Registrars, in the same way that the naming authorities of many other URN namespaces are responsible for uniqueness and persistence. Item 3 requires that a registry of jurisdiction codes and Jurisdictional Registrars be maintained. Section 11.2 of the -12 draft proposes that IANA maintain the registry. Given the experimental nature of the URN registration, it seems to me to be premature to involve IANA, especially since the principles that the Designated Export must implement are likely to change over time. Instead, it seems to me that the best choice for registrar is ITTIG-CNR, the proposer and developer of the URN namespace. When the namespace definition is transitioned to a non-experimental status (including fixing a good set of policies to assign jurisdiction codes), the registry can be transferred to IANA to implement the proven policies. Following this path requires only small changes for -13, viz., updating section 11.2. Dale ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Archived discussions: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/msg03828.html 16 Nov 2017 "urn:lex draft v. 12" https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/msg03811.html starting 20 Sep 2017 "Request for new URN namespace review: LEX" Message-Id: <1505909590.1544977.1112321704.5FEB92F9@webmail.messagingengine.com> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01270.html starting 29 Apr 2014 "Publication request for draft-spinosa-urn-lex" Message-Id: <CALaySJJk5YiCQZqt6WoWkqfAzi2A04HEAH=vG0pVAy8e45N5aQ@mail.gmail.com> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01204.html starting 27 Mar 2013 "Application for a formal URN NID" Message-Id: <23A64284-6B03-4B24-B680-54A61E96BECA at ittig.cnr.it> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01059.html 15 Oct 2009 "URN LEX Namespace submission"
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Enrico Francesconi
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Dale R. Worley
- [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Dale R. Worley
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Barry Leiba
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Hakala, Juha E
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Svensson, Lars
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Enrico Francesconi
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Enrico Francesconi
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Enrico Francesconi
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Dale R. Worley
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Enrico Francesconi
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Enrico Francesconi
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Enrico Francesconi
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Enrico Francesconi
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Enrico Francesconi
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Enrico Francesconi
- Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Dale R. Worley