[urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc2141bis-urn-21: (with COMMENT)
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Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc2141bis-urn-21: Abstain When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc2141bis-urn/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I am not convinced that doubling the amount of text vs. 2141 and 3406 here is really helpful. The draft also seems to spend more time saying what it does not specify rather than what it does. My not-that-well-informed guess is that this product of stalwart effort does not improve the Internet, despite the earnest extended multi-year efforts of the few folks involved. I'd further bet that the world in general would be fine if this did not become and RFC. Normally, I'd just ballot no-objection and let that go, but given that this has consumed cycles for 6 years that could perhaps have been more usefully engaged in dealing with 3986 issues, I think abstaining is a better position to take on the off-chance that that sends some tiny form of signal. (Apologies to those who engaged in this work, I don't mean any disrespect, but I don't think the result here is really worth the effort expended.) - What deployed code supports the ?+ or ?= constructs? If some arguably "important" code does, I'd change my abstain to a no-objection, as then there'd be an at least modest new feature to justify the new RFC. - Section 8 should I think recognise the dangers inherent in long-term stable identifiers helping with (re-)identification of people and/or network entities. While that is not the "fault" of URNs, I'd say it is worth warning folks who may just possibly think twice before creating new URNs with those failings. (Though I recognise that that may call for a reference to RFC6919;-)
- [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf-urn… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… Hakala, Juha E
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… John C Klensin
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… John C Klensin
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… John C Klensin
- Re: [urn] Stephen Farrell's Abstain on draft-ietf… Peter Saint-Andre