Re: [v6ops] [GROW] Deaggregation by large organizations

Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com> Wed, 15 October 2014 12:43 UTC

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On 15 Oct 2014, at 14:41, Nick Hilliard <nick@inex.ie> wrote:

>> There seem to be two types of organizations that do this: geographically
>> dispersed ones that advertise subprefixes in different locations, such
>> as multinationals, and organizations with very independent subunits but
>> with more limited geographical scope, such as national governments.

> and organisations who have a requirement for traffic engineering, whether this requirement is real or imaginary - there are well known examples of each.

Right, we should probably add that.

Although I wouldn't expect an organization to deaggregate down to hundreds or thousands of more specifics just for traffic engineering.