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[v6ops] Re: Fwd: [E] New Version Notification for draft-mishra-v6ops-variable-iids-problem-statement-01.txt

Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Wed, 18 September 2024 11:23 UTC

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From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 07:23:39 -0400
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Thanks Nick for a voice of reason and my arguments exactly when it was
first brought up years ago and seems to keep coming back.

Thanks

Gyan


On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 4:37 AM Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote:

> Gyan Mishra wrote on 18/09/2024 00:15:
> > Issue -#2 Race to bottom
> >
> > Lorenzo Colitti and few others brought up up race to the bottom with the
> > /80 that ISPs would adjust to /80 as their new allocation.  Lorenzo kept
> > saying that ISPs would try to push to move the IID  further shorter with
> > this move opened door to race all the way down which didn’t make
> > sense to me.
>
> There's no actual evidence that supports the race to the bottom
> argument. It might sound plausible but in reality it's entirely
> speculative. I don't see that it has a place as an actual argument for
> or against anything in an IETF working group.
>
> Nick
>

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