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[v6ops] Re: Fwd: [E] New Version Notification for draft-mishra-v6ops-variable-iids-problem-statement-01.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 19 September 2024 20:18 UTC

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I don't think we should be discussing specific pricing here.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust/

Regards
    Brian Carpenter

On 19-Sep-24 18:00, Lorenzo Colitti wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 2:20 AM Gert Doering <gert@space.net <mailto:gert@space.net>> wrote:
> 
>     If there is incentive for ISPs to move from /56 to /80 (e.g. due to
> 
>     ARIN fee structure) this incentive should be corrected where it comes
>     from.
> 
> 
> Are you asserting that ISPs that provide only a /64 today are *not* going to move to /80 once /80 becomes widely accepted? Why would they not do so? I have heard from many ISPs, in more than one country, that they provide /64 as a business decision, not a technical one. The intention is to provide upsell opportunities. One example is Comcast. Another example: in most of Japan, fiber ISPs only provide a /64, and to get a /56 you have to sign up for a separate service that costs the equivalent of $5/month.
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