Re: [v6ops] Fwd: draft-palet-v6ops-nat64-deployment-02 comments

Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com> Tue, 03 July 2018 19:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Fwd: draft-palet-v6ops-nat64-deployment-02 comments
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On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 10:11 AM Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> A general note. I have wondered aloud about interest in several new
> drafts, and managed to miss Cameron's:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-byrne-v6ops-dnssecaaaa
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-byrne-v6ops-dnssecaaaa
>   "DNSSEC Resource Record Should Include AAAA", Cameron Byrne, 2018-07-01,
>
> If you want it on the agenda in two weeks, now would be the time to say so.
>

No, i will not be present.

But  i am interested in folks sending feedback on if this is useful.  The
goal of this I-D is to harmonize dns64 and dnssec deployment with an ideal
solution, as opposed to falling into a worst case where folks pick one or
the other.



> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-palet-v6ops-nat64-deployment-02 comments
> > Date: July 2, 2018 at 2:55:09 PM PDT
> > To: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
> > Cc: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>, "v6ops@ietf.org
> list" <v6ops@ietf.org>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 1:41 PM Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 2, 2018, at 1:17 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <
> jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:
> > >
> > > DNSSEC is *only* broken if the dual-stack host is doing DNSSEC
> validation over the synthetized AAAA.
> >
> > So you're worried about DNSSEC validation working through NAT64 in the
> case that the host is using the DNS service in the IPv4 network through the
> NAT64 device.
> >
> > That doesn't have anything to do with DNS64; an a 464XLAT network, if we
> believe RFC 6877, the issue you raise happens in the absence of DNS64.
> >
> > A good postion for the IETF to take is that one should only produce a
> signed A if they can also produce a signed AAAA, which is not a tall order
> these says
> >
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-byrne-v6ops-dnssecaaaa-00
> >
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