Re: [v6ops] IPv6-only mobile ISP alliance

Tore Anderson <tore@fud.no> Fri, 12 January 2018 09:45 UTC

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From: Tore Anderson <tore@fud.no>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPv6-only mobile ISP alliance
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* Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>

> There must be something in Norway as well, something like 'Telenor' if I 
> remember correctly, it was the first one to do true IPv6 to smartphone 
> (not 464XLAT).

«True IPv6» is a prerequisite for 464XLAT, so this statement does not
really make any sense.

That said, Telenor was not the first. I think that award might go to
Verizon Wireless in the United States. I am not certain, but they
definitively arrived earlier to the IPv6 party than Telenor did at
least.

Telenor did initially launch 464XLAT for a small number of UEs, but
this approach was abandoned in favour of dual stack. Their deployment
is currently just shy of 75% IPv6 according to my own measurements:

https://munin.fud.no/vg.no/www.vg.no/vg_ds_telenor_mobil.html

There's also another small Norwegian PLMN called Ice that has rolled
out IPv6. As far as I've been told they are also using dual stack, not
464XLAT.

Tore