Re: [v6ops] IPv6-only mobile ISP alliance

Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Thu, 11 January 2018 11:47 UTC

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From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPv6-only mobile ISP alliance
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:

> But do not forget that there is no operator that transports GTP in IPv6, 
> even when that is for "IPv6-only" smartphones.  They all transport in on 
> IPv4.  That's why, for me, it is hard to talk about "IPv6-only" mobile 
> operators.

No, it's not. It's only you who focus on this. Everybody else (which has 
been said repeatedly) defines what the customer device sees, which means 
an IPv6 only PDP context carried over IPv4 GTP packets is defined by 
everybody (but you) as "IPv6 only".

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se