Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC
George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> Mon, 19 August 2013 04:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC
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I think this is a useful review of the issues. I think it makes operationally pertinant observations. I think it stands reasonably neutrally in the 'frag or not' debate, because both sides can inform themselves from it. I doubt its going to change many people's minds on the fundamental question. I think it helps inform the question(s) being asked. It made me think harder about the potential for changes to fragments to include upper-layer headers, and to what extent that kind of change might break things, or help with the considerations of risk and load and capability in deployed equipment. I am a little worried the document makes unattributed statements about ASIC and FPGA costs. I think they need to be fleshed out, because this kind of unsubstantiated and unattributed comment can lead to people continuing to assume things which applied once, to some vendors, but doesn't apply now (consider the whole thing about secure disk wiping which was predicated on a very specific generation of HDD hardware. Or, the "BGP is dying we need locator+id" debate, which arguably stems from a false premise) Having said that, if google employees say that they use systems on their 'edge' which do this, thats certainly attributed. -G On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> wrote: > This is to initiate a two week working group last call of > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop. Please read it > now. If you find nits > (spelling errors, minor suggested wording changes, etc), comment to the > authors; if you find greater issues, such as disagreeing with a > statement or finding additional issues that need to be addressed, > please post your comments to the list. > > We are looking specifically for comments on the importance of the > document as well as its content. If you have read the document and > believe it to be of operational utility, that is also an important > comment to make. > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC George Michaelson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Havard Eidnes
- [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Jason Fesler
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Sheng Jiang
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Joe Touch
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Joe Touch
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Joe Touch
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC George Michaelson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC George, Wes
- [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC C. M. Heard
- Re: [v6ops] draft-taylor-v6ops-fragdrop WGLC Randy Bush