Re: [VCARDDAV] Rename SEX to GENDER

Mike Douglass <mikeadouglass@gmail.com> Tue, 02 November 2010 18:06 UTC

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It seems that the definitions of SEX and GENDER are quite clear.

The question - which I'm not sure anybody has addressed is - what's the 
intent of the property?

If it's to define the individuals actual sex then SEX.

If it's for them to express their gender then GENDER

Or maybe we can just allow both and point people at the definitions...

On 11/02/2010 02:02 PM, Kevin Marks wrote:
> I refer you back to Sarah's post + references:
>
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/vcarddav/current/msg01778.html
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Joseph Smarr <jsmarr@gmail.com 
> <mailto:jsmarr@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     And I'm even more against using the ISO values...as I've said
>     repeatedly, developers do come across raw data formats all the
>     time, and seeing "sex: 0" is totally opaque, whereas "gender:
>     male" is totally obvious. This really does matter for ease of
>     adoption and ultimately compliance and interop. The suggestion
>     from PoCo was to use two reserved values "male" and "female" plus
>     letting people include an arbitrary string for alternative values.
>     Tantek has made a slightly more powerful-but-complex proposal that
>     has a single M/F char plus an arbitrary string. But both are much
>     clearer than the numeric ISO values. I can never remember whether
>     it's 0-based or 1-based, which is female vs male, etc. This will
>     be a problem in practice, and achieves no interop gains by "using
>     an existing standard" IMO.
>
>     Thanks, js
>
>
>     On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Simon Perreault
>     <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca <mailto:simon.perreault@viagenie.ca>>
>     wrote:
>
>         On 2010-11-02 11:44, Brian Suda wrote:
>         > My guess as to why most sign-up forms use GENDER rather than
>         SEX might
>         > be due to blanket filters stopping words like SEX from getting
>         > through.
>
>         It may also be a language artifact. For example, French forms
>         tend to
>         use "sexe" more often than "genre".
>
>         Anyway, the point remains: gender is more often used than sex.
>
>         Simon
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