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Re: [VCARDDAV] KIND in draft 15

Simon Perreault <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> Mon, 20 December 2010 19:02 UTC

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On 2010-12-20 13:59, Tantek Çelik wrote:
> However I *also* think that
> 
> * GROUP
> 
> should be dropped from 6.1.4 and also be put into such an extension.

Note that the working group consensus from Beijing seems to be pointing
in the other direction.

> In my opinion, "GROUP" is far more abstract (lacks documented real
> world user interfaces / implementations - if not - please cite the
> research documentation) than *either* LIST or ROBOT.

I have used tons of address book programs that let me organize contacts
into groups... Is my experience not ordinary?

> Whereas right now, in my Gmail contacts for example, I *do* have
> *several* email addresses (and thus contacts) for LISTs and ROBOTs.  I
> don't have any for GROUPs.

Can you point at the GUI elements in Gmail that let you tag these
addresses as LISTs and ROBOTs?

Actually, Gmail is a good example of a UA that lets you organize
contacts into groups.

Simon
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