Re: WG notifications of new IDs is causing problems

[Russ Housley <[e-mail]>]

Thank you.

At 10:58 AM 11/16/2007, Michael Lee wrote:

WG CC on #2 below has been turned off.

Regards,
Michael Lee,
IETF Secretariat.

On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Russ Housley wrote:

This seems to be the source of the problem, #1 and #2 both include the WG mail list, which is to notices for the same action.  Can we turn off the WG CC on #2?

Russ

At 05:36 PM 11/15/2007, Michael Lee wrote:

For a working group document submission, the submission tool send out following announcement/notifications:

1. I-D Action announcement to the I-D announcement list and wg mailing list.
2. A new version notification to the submitter and authors of the document. WG list gets cc'ed.
3. If the document has been requested for publish and evaluated by the IESG, a notification is sent to the shepherding AD and whomever the shepherding AD has indicated within the ID Tracker (WG mailing list is a default list in this field.)

Hope this message can clear some vagueness regarding the issue.

BTW, [e-mail] was cc'ed because a shepherding AD indicated this address in ID tracker.

Best regards,
Michael Lee,
IETF Secretariat.

On Nov 15, 2007, at 5:09 PM, Jari Arkko wrote:

James, Russ,

> Geopriv and SIPPING have a lot of of these right now, so this issue
> isn't just to one draft, it's to an entire class of message type - and
> I find it annoying and makes reading through the 150+ messages I get
> each day less efficient instead of more efficient *and* makes tracking
> threads nearly impossible.

I looked at geopriv and sipping archives; many of the messages in
recent weeks were sent by the authors themselves, eg.

  http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/current/msg04649.html" rel="nofollow"> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/current/msg04649.html
  http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/current/msg04665.html" rel="nofollow"> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/current/msg04665.html
  http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sipping/current/msg14735.html" rel="nofollow"> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sipping/current/msg14735.html

But I also found cases where the submission tool sent the message:

   http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/current/msg04573.html" rel="nofollow"> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/current/msg04573.html
   http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sipping/current/msg14726.html" rel="nofollow"> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sipping/current/msg14726.html

Russ' theory was that this could be an error in the tracker's e-mail
notification
field. But at least for this draft (geopriv-revised-civic-lo) the data
seemed
correct. I also tested whether the tool used for deriving the addresses for
[e-mail] was somehow at fault, but
it seemed to list just the authors, as it should. Same for sipping-pending-
additions.

So, maybe this comes from the submission tool, an error in the secretariat's
internal database (that I can't see), or I missed something.

Jari