Re: WG notifications of new IDs is causing problems

["James M. Polk" <[e-mail]>]

Thank you!

At 09:58 AM 11/16/2007, Michael Lee wrote:
>WG CC on #2 below has been turned off.
>
>Regards,
>Michael Lee,
>IETF Secretariat.
>
>On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Russ Housley wrote:
>
>>This seems to be the source of the problem, #1 and #2 both include 
>>the WG mail list, which is to notices for the same action.  Can we 
>>turn off the WG CC on #2?
>>
>>Russ
>>
>>At 05:36 PM 11/15/2007, Michael Lee wrote:
>>>For a working group document submission, the submission tool send 
>>>out following announcement/notifications:
>>>
>>>1. I-D Action announcement to the I-D announcement list and wg mailing list.
>>>2. A new version notification to the submitter and authors of the 
>>>document. WG list gets cc'ed.
>>>3. If the document has been requested for publish and evaluated by 
>>>the IESG, a notification is sent to the shepherding AD and 
>>>whomever the shepherding AD has indicated within the ID Tracker 
>>>(WG mailing list is a default list in this field.)
>>>
>>>Hope this message can clear some vagueness regarding the issue.
>>>
>>>BTW, 
>>><mailto:[e-mail]>[e-mail] 
>>>was cc'ed because a shepherding AD indicated this address in ID tracker.
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>Michael Lee,
>>>IETF Secretariat.
>>>
>>>On Nov 15, 2007, at 5:09 PM, Jari Arkko wrote:
>>>
>>>>James, Russ,
>>>>
>>>> > Geopriv and SIPPING have a lot of of these right now, so this issue
>>>> > isn't just to one draft, it's to an entire class of message type - and
>>>> > I find it annoying and makes reading through the 150+ messages I get
>>>> > each day less efficient instead of more efficient *and* makes tracking
>>>> > threads nearly impossible.
>>>>
>>>>I looked at geopriv and sipping archives; many of the messages in
>>>>recent weeks were sent by the authors themselves, eg.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>><http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/current/msg04649.html>http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/current/msg04649.html 
>>>>
>>>>   http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/current/msg04665.html
>>>> 
>>>><http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sipping/current/msg14735.html>http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sipping/current/msg14735.html 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>But I also found cases where the submission tool sent the message:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>><http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/current/msg04573.html>http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/current/msg04573.html 
>>>>
>>>>    http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sipping/current/msg14726.html
>>>>
>>>>Russ' theory was that this could be an error in the tracker's e-mail
>>>>notification
>>>>field. But at least for this draft (geopriv-revised-civic-lo) the data
>>>>seemed
>>>>correct. I also tested whether the tool used for deriving the addresses for
>>>><mailto:[e-mail]>[e-mail] 
>>>>was somehow at fault, but
>>>>it seemed to list just the authors, as it should. Same for sipping-pending-
>>>>additions.
>>>>
>>>>So, maybe this comes from the submission tool, an error in the 
>>>>secretariat's
>>>>internal database (that I can't see), or I missed something.
>>>>
>>>>Jari