RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conference
petri.koskelainen@nokia.com Tue, 06 January 2004 16:58 UTC
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Subject: RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conference
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 18:50:43 +0200
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To: Brian.Rosen@marconi.com, roni.even@polycom.co.il
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I agree with Brian. Petri > -----Original Message----- > From: xcon-admin@ietf.org [mailto:xcon-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of ext > Rosen, Brian > Sent: 06 January, 2004 16:47 > To: 'Even, Roni' > Cc: Khartabil Hisham (Nokia-TP/Helsinki); xcon@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conference > > > Clearly, xcon can only address the "equipment" part of the problem. > > What is wrong with making the start time in the future? I think it is > quite sufficient. The actual mechanism the focus uses to maintain > resource reservation is beyond scope, but the actual reservation seems > to be simple. > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Even, Roni [mailto:roni.even@polycom.co.il] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:23 AM > To: 'Rosen, Brian'; Even, Roni > Cc: 'hisham.khartabil@nokia.com'; xcon@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conference > > > Brian, > So you see the focus as managing reservation, this means we > have to go back > to the framework document and decide how to handle > reservation. I did not > see the requirement to have it as part of the conferencing > architecture > since it does not apply only to conferencing. Reservation is > a general topic > that address also the conference rooms, the people and the > equipment. That > is why I think it is outside of the conferencing architecture > Roni Even > > ************************************* > Roni Even > > Polycom Israel > > Tel: +972-3-9251200 > Cell: +972-55-481099 > email:roni.even@polycom.co.il > ******************************************* > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rosen, Brian [mailto:Brian.Rosen@marconi.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:14 PM > To: 'Even, Roni' > Cc: 'hisham.khartabil@nokia.com'; xcon@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conference > > > I don't like this idea because I think that we need a > standardized interface > for scheduling and "external application server" sounds very > proprietary to > me. I guess I could be convinced we need a separate interface, with a > separate protocol (maybe it could be iCal), but I'm not yet convinced > just specifying a start time in the future isn't a sufficient > reservation > mechanism. > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Even, Roni [mailto:roni.even@polycom.co.il] > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:22 AM > To: 'Rosen, Brian'; 'hisham.khartabil@nokia.com'; xcon@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conference > > > Brian, > My suggestion is not to have reservation in the conference policy. The > conference policy is used by the focus according to the > conference framework > and the focus is not the place for handling reservation. I think that > reservation is handled by an external application server that > will start the > conference using CPCP at the time when the conference > scheduled time has > arrived. The focus may use the conference duration > information in order to > notify the participants that it the conference end-time is coming and > terminate the conference. Extension of the should be done > using CPCP either > by the participant or an application server. > Roni > > ************************************* > Roni Even > VP Product Planning > Polycom Israel > > Tel: +972-3-9251200 > Cell: +972-55-481099 > email:roni.even@polycom.co.il > ******************************************* > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rosen, Brian [mailto:Brian.Rosen@marconi.com] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:25 PM > To: 'hisham.khartabil@nokia.com'; xcon@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conference > > > Again, I'm worried about "privileged users". I think we need > to finish > some discussions we started a while ago that essentially are > semantics. > What is an "inactivated" conference, and how does it differ from a > conference that can be re-instantiated (a weekly meeting for example)? > > Brian > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: hisham.khartabil@nokia.com [mailto:hisham.khartabil@nokia.com] > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:57 AM > > To: xcon@ietf.org > > Subject: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conference > > > > > > This is in reference to requirement REQ-B9 in > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-xcon-cpcp-reqs-00.txt > > > > REQ-B9: It MUST be possible to inactive a conference for defined > > period of time. > > > > There are start and stop times for a conference. A conference > > might live for days, weeks or even months. Should a > > conference policy, using CPCP, allow a privileged user to > > de-activate a conference for a period of time within the > > start and stop times of a conference? Examples are > > administrator is performing some maintenance. > > > > Regards, > > Hisham > > > _______________________________________________ XCON mailing list XCON@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xcon
- [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conferen… hisham.khartabil
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Rosen, Brian
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… hisham.khartabil
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Drage, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… hisham.khartabil
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Drage, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… hisham.khartabil
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Drage, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Even, Roni
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Rosen, Brian
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Even, Roni
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Rosen, Brian
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… petri.koskelainen
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Drage, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Even, Roni
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Drage, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Michael Hammer
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Even, Roni
- RE: [XCON] CPCP Requirement: de-activating a conf… Eric Burger