Re: [Ianaplan] control and negotiation (was Re: draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 working group last call)

"Richard Hill" <rhill@hill-a.ch> Tue, 04 November 2014 21:16 UTC

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I agree with Miles.

Best,
Richard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ianaplan [mailto:ianaplan-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Miles
> Fidelman
> Sent: mardi, 4. novembre 2014 22:13
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> Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] control and negotiation (was Re:
> draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 working group last call)
> 
> 
> David Conrad wrote:
> >> Instead, ICANN unilaterally staked a  claim to the domain, by 
> registering it.
> > % whois -h whois.pir.org iana.org
> > Domain Name:IANA.ORG
> > Domain ID: D1073204-LROR
> > Creation Date: 1995-06-05T04:00:00Z
> > ...
> >
> > There may be more to the story of IANA.ORG than you are implying.
> >
> > Regards,
> > -drc
> > (ICANN CTO, but speaking only for myself. Really.)
> 
> Well, it might be helpful to know that history.  At one point, SRI was 
> IANA, now ICANN has registered it.  How did that come to be?
> 
> Given that the IANA function was originally being performed at the 
> behest of the USG, and still is, who actually has legitimate claim to 
> the trademark, and how does that play against the domain registration 
> policy?
> 
> It strikes me that this is something that should be cleared up as part 
> of this process.
> 
> Arguably, the cleanest way of handling this specific detail would be for 
> the USG (NTIA) to assert ownership of the trademark, reclaim the domain 
> registration from ICANN, and then transfer that registration to some 
> neutral custodian as part of the transition.
> 
> Miles Fidelman
> 
> -- 
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