Re: [111attendees] Agenda pains
Nigel Hickson <nigel.hickson@dcms.gov.uk> Fri, 30 July 2021 11:00 UTC
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From: Nigel Hickson <nigel.hickson@dcms.gov.uk>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 12:00:14 +0100
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Subject: Re: [111attendees] Agenda pains
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Good afternoon Apologies; but why not UTC? Nigel On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 at 11:50, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote: > On 2021-07-29, at 18:11, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I think UTC is best because it’s predictable and sort-of universal. > > It also happens to be the standard. > > (The waters are muddied because corporations trying to dumb down their > communication, including the press, tend to call it GMT, which is close. > Hence people on the street are more likely to know “GMT” than “UTC”.) > > Call it “world time” and it is unambiguous (“1500Z” == “1500 world”) and > has the lowest number of syllables. > > Being able to operate in world time is a skill that is becoming ever more > important to many of us, so we might want to get with the program. > > > Meeting local timezone is at least predictable when you know where the > meeting “is” > > "Meeting local” timezone is meaningless for anyone except at the meeting > location. Nobody is actually at the virtual meeting location, so why waste > time with this? (Once we go hybrid and use printed schedules again, the > “browser time” of the printed schedule is the “meeting local” time, > though. But that is only relevant for printed matter; it MUST never be > used for online information.) > > > Local is most convenient, but only if it is set correctly. > > “Browser local” is probably a more accurate term. If the timezone on your > computer (which is what the browser uses) is not set to your local time, > you might have a problem, but not just with IETF meetings :-) > > Re the +1 notation: There is a simpler way, used on my eclectic schedule: > > 1900-2100 Session I > 2130-2230 Session II > 2300-2500 Session III > > If you can count, this should work for you. > (Not too great with negative, so once we meet on Tonga = UTC+13, we’ll > need to get used to some modulo arithmetic: > > 9900-0100 Session 1 > 0130-0230 Session 2 > 0300-0500 Session 3 > > I’m not sure Tonga is on the shortlist; Auckland in Winter [Northern > Summer] might be, though.) > > Grüße, Carsten > > -- > 111attendees mailing list > 111attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/111attendees >
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