Re: [113attendees] Can't use US site from EU (Re: US Vaccine Record (QR code for MASS residents))

[Donald Eastlake <[e-mail]>]

On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 1:05 PM Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Yes, I tried VPN - but it automatically goes to our EU site 😊

Sorry, I should have been more explicit. I meant a VPN product that
gives you a wide choice of where to appear around the world. For
examples, see https://www.tomsguide.com/features/which-vpn-do-people-actually-use,
an article I just found by doing a web search.

Donald

> Anyway, my wife accessed the site from US and got me the QR code, so all set.
>
> Someone said that I could just show up w/ my paper record (no QR code) w/o online check-in. I believe that should work but I wanted to iron on wrinkles if I could.
>
> Another thing I need is a "Combined passenger disclosure and attestation to the USA" form. I filled and signed it on my phone but printed out a hard copy just in case because I don't seem to be able to submit it online. 7 pages!
>
> Thanks!
> Jeffrey
>
>
> Juniper Business Use Only
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Eastlake <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 5:55 PM
> To: Mike Bishop <[e-mail]>
> Cc: Carsten Bormann <[e-mail]>; Jared Mauch <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]; Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: [113attendees] Can't use US site from EU (Re: US Vaccine Record (QR code for MASS residents))
>
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>
>
> Use a VPN.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
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>  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
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> On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 11:52 AM Mike Bishop <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > It's not just the EU, though. I've encountered occasional sites who have apparently decided that since essentially all their customers are US-based and a large portion of their attack traffic is from outside the US, they will drop all incoming traffic from outside the US and a few other countries. Makes them annoying to deal with while traveling.
> >
> > When I've contacted support to complain, one offered to whitelist my particular IP address if it was stable, but all basically shrugged and said "security!"
> >
> > Sent from Nine
> > ________________________________
> > From: Carsten Bormann <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 11:23 AM
> > To: Jared Mauch
> > Cc: [e-mail]; Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
> > Subject: [113attendees] Can't use US site from EU (Re: US Vaccine
> > Record (QR code for MASS residents))
> >
> > On 2022-03-25, at 11:00, Jared Mauch <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > >
> > > (aside: I've found there's many US local government sites that must
> > > have some local firewalls or something that block the use of
> > > services from
> > > EU)
> >
> > This is a really interesting side observation.
> >
> > How did that happen?
> >
> > When the European GDPR came out, there were a lot of consultants that saw easy money and offered their services to US organizations for help in handling the (completely overblown) legal risks that might come out of that.
> > Instead, many US organizations simply opted not to buy their expensive services but to simply block clients on EU-localized addresses instead.
> > (Hint: That blocking does not reduce any legal risk, because I’m still
> > an EU citizen even if I access your services from a “US-localized” IP
> > address.  Maybe it would have been worth to look at GDPR and find out
> > that the underlying rules for data protection after all hadn’t really
> > changed from the status quo ante.)
> >
> > Result: the greedy consultants came out empty-handed, but at the same time caused a lot of damage by severely hampering the world-wide availability of US services and products.
> >
> > See the graphics on pages three and five of
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://gandalf.fee.urv.cat/professors/Anto
> > nioQuesada/Curs1920/Cipolla_laws.pdf__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!SCWFE1PaboglcCajN
> > cZCJRpnQZ8hj-ezhTO2lZRYUk2GOZt7TbVvTtpPZ46OQCQh$
> > for some help on the economic theory that applies here.
> > Clearly, we are in sector B2 here.
> >
> > Grüße, Carsten
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