RE: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12:00
"Tom Alexander" <tom@veriwave.com> Wed, 15 November 2006 03:12 UTC
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From: Tom Alexander <tom@veriwave.com>
To: 'Markus Stenberg' <mstenber@cisco.com>, 'Tim Chown' <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12:00
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The legal set of 5 GHz channel frequencies assigned for 802.11 WLAN operations in Japan are completely disjoint from those in the USA. These frequency assignments are not under the control of the vendor, or even the IEEE, but are made by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications in Japan, and the Federal Communications Commission in the USA. As the 5 GHz band is not assigned to WLANs on a primary basis, but shared with other country-specific services such as satellite downlinks and microwave landing systems, it is not surprising that different countries have different regulations concerning this band. I think vendors are prohibited from allowing their customers to switch frequency sets at will - that is, a laptop sold in Japan is only allowed to see the Japanese frequency set. Otherwise, a consumer device could wind up causing serious interference to licensed services, even though inadvertent. Just one of the many interesting wireless pitfalls ... - Tom A. -----Original Message----- From: Markus Stenberg [mailto:mstenber@cisco.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:18 PM To: Tim Chown Cc: 67attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12:00 Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> writes: > I have an older Mac and a newer Thinkpad. The Thinkpad supports a/b/g, > and while the interface for media selection is rather clunky, it does > work very well. > > Is there any feeling for what IETF events will support in the future? > I hope the 11a/b/g support continues, and you don't listen to Jobs :) I'm hoping the 11a goes away, if it leads to more b/g coverage (unlikely, considering they're probably provided by the same access points, but I live in hope). Why is that? I have a Japanese 11a/b/g both in my Thinkpad and Panasonic laptops. Unfortunately, it seems that some moron's been in charge when the frequency sets for 11a were chosen (or I'm a moron), as I can't see the 11a networks in IETFs at all. I _suspect_ it is our good friend region-coding that is acting up - apparently both of my laptops subscribe to the ZZJ (Japan) frequency set according to the Intel driver in Linux, and unfortunately I can't change that while travelling. Wireless hardware for fixed operations? sigh.. And as a side note.. 67th IETF was the first one where I maintained network connectivity throughout the plenaries, good job! Cheers, -Markus _______________________________________________ 67ATTENDEES mailing list 67ATTENDEES@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/67attendees _______________________________________________ 67ATTENDEES mailing list 67ATTENDEES@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/67attendees
- [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12:00 Jim Martin
- [67ATTENDEES] Re: IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Tim Chown
- [67ATTENDEES] Re: IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Bernie Hoeneisen
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Burger, Eric
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] Re: IETF 67 Network goes down a… Joerg Ott
- RE: [67ATTENDEES] Re: IETF 67 Network goes down a… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] Re: IETF 67 Network goes down a… Krzysztof Rzecki
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Ken Raeburn
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Tim Chown
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Bill Fenner
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Tim Chown
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Richard Barnes
- Re(2): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at… Peter Lovell
- Re: Re(2): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Jim Martin
- Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at… Peter Lovell
- Re: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Tim Chown
- Re: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Fred Baker
- Re: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Markus Stenberg
- RE: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Tom Alexander
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
- Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at… Tim Thome
- Re: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Simon Leinen
- Re: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: Re(2): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Stephen Casner
- Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Tim Chown