Re: Re(2): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12:00

Jim Martin <jim@daedelus.com> Mon, 13 November 2006 23:10 UTC

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From: Jim Martin <jim@daedelus.com>
Subject: Re: Re(2): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12:00
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:10:12 -0800
To: Peter Lovell <peter.lovell@sparta.com>
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On Nov 13, 2006, at 2:14 PM, Peter Lovell wrote:

> I also had excellent results all week. This was with 802.11a, which is
> built-in on recent Macs. I'm not sure how far back it goes, perhaps  
> all
> Intel-based MacBook/MacBook Pro's.

	Glad you had a good experience!

	Alas, this seems to have been a short-lived win. Indeed all the Core  
Duo MacBooks and MacBook Pros have an Atheros A/B/G card, but the OS  
doesn't support selecting A over B/G, unless you have A only (or B/G  
only) SSIDs. This is why we had the ietf67a and ietf67b SSIDs for the  
specific technologies.

	Unfortunately, with the release of the new Core 2 Duo based units,  
Apple switched from A/B/G to B/G/pre-N. This makes sense, since that  
keeps all their technologies at 2.4G (one antenna), and fits with  
Steve's clearly stated belief that 802.11a isn't relevant. The bummer  
is that 802.11a is much more suited to high density, high demand/ 
performance "enterprise" networks like the IETF.

>
> Kudos to the network crew.

	Many thanks!

	- Jim

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[67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12:00 Jim Martin
[67ATTENDEES] Re: IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Tim Chown
[67ATTENDEES] Re: IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Brian E Carpenter
Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Bernie Hoeneisen
Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Burger, Eric
Re: [67ATTENDEES] Re: IETF 67 Network goes down a… Joerg Ott
RE: [67ATTENDEES] Re: IETF 67 Network goes down a… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
Re: [67ATTENDEES] Re: IETF 67 Network goes down a… Krzysztof Rzecki
Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Marshall Eubanks
Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Steven M. Bellovin
Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Ken Raeburn
Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Tim Chown
Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Bill Fenner
Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Tim Chown
Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Richard Barnes
Re(2): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at… Peter Lovell
Re: Re(2): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Jim Martin
Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at… Peter Lovell
Re: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Tim Chown
Re: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Fred Baker
Re: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Markus Stenberg
RE: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Tom Alexander
Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at… Tim Thome
Re: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Simon Leinen
Re: Re(4): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Andrew G. Malis
Re: Re(2): [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes dow… Stephen Casner
Re: [67ATTENDEES] IETF 67 Network goes down at 12… Tim Chown