Re: [78attendees] WARNING !!! Re: Maastricht to Brussels-Nat-Aero, Sat 07:09

Klaas Wierenga <> Fri, 30 July 2010 21:59 UTC

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Are you talking about the Belgian train system? After all you only spent the first 5 minutes in The Netherlands ;-)

Fwiw, I have 0 experience with the website of NS being wrong, and I travel *a lot* by train in the Netherlands. I don't know what happened, whether you made a mistake or something broke down (that does happen you know!)


P.s. Sorry to hear that you had a bad experience, some day I may tell you about my experiences at Barajas, but let's not generalize.....

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On Jul 30, 2010, at 9:57 PM, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" <> wrote:

> - Don’t believe at all in the info about the trains that they provide in the
> web site.
> - Don’t believe at all in the info the employees in the train stations
> provide
> I will suggest to relay only in the people that drive the trains itself,
> according to my today experience.
> I was flying out from Brussels to Madrid.
> I decided just in case to take an earlier train that actually needed.
> I was in the station 40 minutes before the train should leave. It was a
> direct express train from Maastricht to Brussels North and then only one
> change to the airport.
> Guess what ... IT WAS NOT TRUE. I needed to change the train 4 times. In the
> first change in Liege for the info about the right itinerary, and after,
> asked for a complain form proving them that the web site was WRONG. They
> told me it is outdated and they know it for ages ...
> Well the worst is that the new itinerary was also INCORRECT ! I only
> discovered it asking to the train driver who provided me the right itinerary
> to all the way thru in order to be able to be in the airport 36 minutes
> before my train departure.
> I was not lucky, and the check-in was already closed and was not able to get
> my bags thru (no problem with me because I had already my boarding pass), so
> needed to get my bags directly into the plane as a very special favor
> because I'm Platinum level in Iberia, throwing away some of the liquids in
> the security control, and when arrived to Madrid, discovered that my bag was
> lost in the way (a direct flight !).
> It seems that I will get it tomorrow, as local staff forgot to put it on the
> plane, even if I run across all the airport with the bag !
> Of course, I'm going to claim for injuries to the train system, even if I
> need to spend money in lawyers, but definitively, we should boycott any new
> meeting that need to use the Belgium/Netherlands train system.
> I'm sorry about this but, even if I was quite the last days with all the
> noise about the trains, and I was thinking that people was exaggerating, now
> I realize that the people was completely right, THEY HAVE THE WORST TRAIN
> So please, IAOC/secretariat. For any NEXT MEETING make sure that the
> official web sites for transport are 9999% ACCURATE, 100% is not enough.
> Regards,
> Jordi
> From: Gregory Lebovitz <>
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:44:19 -0700
> To: <>
> Subject: [78attendees] Maastricht to Brussels-Nat-Aero, Sat 07:09
> Hey all,
> I'm heading to the Brussels airport on Saturday morning, early. I've got a
> 07:09 train from Maastricht city center, with two transfers, that gets me
> into Bruxelles-Nat-Aero at 09:10, in time for my 11:00 flight.
> Anyone from NH want to share a cab to the train station, and make the
> journey together?
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