Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ?
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Sun, 24 April 2016 20:47 UTC
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Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:47:11 -0400
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Subject: Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ?
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--On Sunday, April 24, 2016 3:46 PM -0400 Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca> wrote: >> My interest is to book an hotel that balance between price, >> membership level and points, and even the chance to pay with >> points instead of money. > > my own two cents: points are the least of my concerns and I > hope, contrary to your opinion, that secretariat/iaoc > will _not_ take points into accounts while negotiating the > best price for the whole meeting. Marc, I sort of agree (and have, with travel or registration for a very few meetings as exceptions, been completely supporting my IETF participation for about 15 years). On the other hand, I think disclosure is important: if the IAOC negotiates a deal that is inconsistent with usual assumptions, it would be good for the community to be told about it when the hotel is announced. I don't see that inconsistency with expectations as being much different if it is "no points at this rate" or "normally, rooms in this hotel are supplied with coffee makers and free coffee, but no free coffee at this rate". On the other hand, it is reasonable for people who have special concerns about rooms or rates (points, coffee, ...) to take some responsibility: I assume we all know how to call a hotel or send them a note and ask. FWIW, unlike (apparently) some people here and independent of IETF meetings, I've encountered "you are here of a group rate, a negotiated rate, a rate obtained through a reseller, an airline vacation rate, or ... and therefore don't get points, stay credit, or any of the following amenities..." several times in the last few years. If those amenities would figure into my booking decisions, the old adage "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" probably applies. john
- [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Ben Campbell
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? ietf
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Leif Hedstrom
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Jared Mauch
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Ali Karimi
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? John R. Levine
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Ali Karimi
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Dolganow, Andrew (Nokia - SG)
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Marc Blanchet
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich)
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? John C Klensin
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? ietf
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Randy Bush
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
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- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich)
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Ray Pelletier
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Phil Hunt
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Ray Pelletier
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Ted Lemon
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Dave Thaler
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? John Bradley
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Dolganow, Andrew (Nokia - SG)
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Bob Hinden
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- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Laura Nugent
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? John Bradley
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Laura Nugent
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich)
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Bob Hinden
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Brian Haberman
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
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- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Phil Hunt
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Cj Aronson
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? Laura Nugent
- Re: [95attendees] hhonors points credited ? JORDI PALET MARTINEZ