Re: [admin-discuss] Public archival of AUTH48 communications

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Thu, 24 February 2022 23:00 UTC

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 14:59:39 -0800
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Subject: Re: [admin-discuss] Public archival of AUTH48 communications
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This seems reasonable to me. However, I do have one logistical question. We
are increasingly seeing some of this discussion on Github. Would that also
be archived and if so how?

-Ekr


On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:25 PM The IESG <iesg@ietf.org> wrote:

> The IETF prides itself on its open process and transparent
> communication, with one of our core principles being our commitment to
> making all materials related to our standards process and other
> activities publicly available.
>
> For a document undergoing publication within the IETF Stream, most of
> its history can be traced by exploring the mail archive - from the first
> submission, to Last Call comments, to IESG evaluation. However, once the
> document enters the RFC Editor queue, the communication between authors
> and RFC Production Center (RPC) is only visible to a specific set of
> people: RFC editors, authors, the responsible ADs and WG chairs (when
> applicable).
>
> In order to increase transparency during the final stages of document
> editing, the IESG, IAB, ISE, IRSG, Temporary RFC Series Project Manager,
> RPC, and Tools team are considering allowing anyone to search and read
> AUTH48 conversations about specific documents (or clusters of
> documents). It is not a goal to actively involve more people in the
> conversation between authors and RFC editors.
>
> Our proposal: to set up a public mailing list of AUTH48 conversations,
> for archival purposes only, i.e., read-only. The RFC editors, when
> initiating the conversation with the authors will CC this mailing list.
> All further responses usually maintain the CC addresses, and as a
> consequence will be archived in the mailing list archive.
>
> All AUTH48 discussions of all documents will be archived on the same
> mailing list. Searches and filtering will be available based on the
> mails’ content and metadata, including draft name, RFC-to-be number,
> cluster number, sender, and date.
>
> Opt out: the authors and RFC editors are able to opt out from archival,
> by removing the mailing list from the CC. Although we don’t envision
> that this will be necessary often, there may be cases where sensitive
> information needs to be shared.
>
> The initial AUTH48 mail from the RFC Editor will also include text about
> public archival, to make sure authors are aware. With this announcement,
> the IESG wants to inform the community and read feedback before we set
> anything up. Please send any comment to iesg@ietf.org or reply to this
> thread by 24 March 2022.
>
> Francesca Palombini for the IESG
>
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