Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg-rfc3536bis-00.txt

Dave CROCKER <dhc@dcrocker.net> Wed, 11 May 2011 17:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg-rfc3536bis-00.txt
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> +1, Strong oppose to "verbal", and support to replace "interact" to
> "communicate"
>
> The definition of language is to make a generic term for all kinds of
> communication and then narrow down to writing related terminologies (script,
> writing system, character, etc).


Correct.

Throughout this thread, people seem to be confusing "verbal" with "oral".  The
latter refers to speech.  Formally, the former is about verbs; that is, words.
So, for example, sign languages are verbal.

That said, the confusion is common enough to represent an emerging change in the
language to produce an equivalence of the words.

(See 3rd definition:  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/verbal)


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   Dave Crocker
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