Re: [apps-discuss] I-D Action: draft-ietf-appsawg-rfc3536bis-00.txt

[Paul Hoffman <[e-mail]>]

On May 11, 2011, at 3:58 AM, Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote:

> 10.05.2011 23:09, Barry Leiba wrote:
>>>>> I think this definition is not correct.  "A way that humans interact" is
>>>>> too generalized.  I suppose the following definition would suit better here.
>>>>> 
>> ...
>> 
>>>> Your definition is too limiting. Clearly, we are not only talking about
>>>> speech.
>>>> 
>>> Agreed; but the current isn't appropriate as well.  Considering a language
>>> being the humans interaction way is correct in its concept, but I think we
>>> should think about more exact definition.
>>> 
>> I don't.  I think the text is fine as it is, and we should stop
>> pushing on this point and leave it alone.  [The only change I can see
>> supporting is inserting "verbal" before "way".  But there are
>> non-verbal languages, as well.]
>> 
> Adding "verbal" seems fine to me; this will clarify the definition a bit.

As Barry said, there are non-verbal languages as well. As co-author of this document, I would be very hesitant to disqualify the languages used by tens (maybe hundreds) of millions of people with this change unless the WG has a good reason to do so.

> How about the following text:
> 
>    control character
> 
>       The control character (also known as control code) is a special-purpose
>       codepoint in a particular coded character set that generally does not 
>       represent any written symbol.  Generally, control characters are used 
>       to control handling
>  of data; they can be considered to be and i
> n-band
>       signaling in the context of character encoding.  <NONE>
>    
>       Currently, there are 65 control characters, occupying the ranges 
>       U+0000..U+001F and U+007F..U+009F.  The basic space character, U+0020,
>       is often considered as a control character as well, making the total 
>       number 66.  In terminology adopted by Unicode from ASCII and the 
>       ISO 8859 standards, these codes are treated as belonging to three 
>       ranges: "C0" (for U+0000..U+001F), "C1" (for U+0080...U+009F), and 
>       the single control character "DEL" (U+007F).

You are again ignoring what others have said. What does this proposed text have to do with internationalization?

--Paul Hoffman