Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media Type - draft-seantek-text-markdown-media-type-00
Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Wed, 09 July 2014 18:49 UTC
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:06:18 -0700
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media Type - draft-seantek-text-markdown-media-type-00
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> I thought about that, but these variants have the same problem that using the > 'profile' parameter does; they're not subsets of markdown, they're incompatible > variants. And even the variants themselves aren't all that precisely defined. Which IMO makes them a mismatch for the +suffix concept, even if we did something like +markdown-variant. Ned > On 9 Jul 2014, at 1:04 pm, James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> wrote: > > The issue really isn't that different from what we have with the > > suffixes +json and +xml. Just define a basic text/markdown and a > > +markdown suffix. Then flavors are defined as variations on the > > suffix. e.g. "text/vnd.github+markdown", > > "text/vnd.stackoverflow+markdown" etc. > > > > That said, noting the previous comment about Markdown flavors that > > allow embedded HTML, using "application/" would seem to make more > > sense than "text/" > > > > - James > > > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote: > >> Maybe a bunch of media types need to be registered then, for the "bigger" flavours? > >> > >> Doing so might encourage some convergence. > >> > >> > >> On 9 Jul 2014, at 9:12 am, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com> wrote: > >> > >>> A 'flavor' isn't (or shouldn't be) a 'profile'. Strictly speaking, > >>> a profile of a file format or protocol is a restriction of the > >>> original, where instances following the profile also can > >>> be interpreted correctly by any implementation of the > >>> full format or protocol. > >>> > >>> My impression is that the markdown flavors are not > >>> Subsets and add features as well as restrict them. > >>> > >>> I think that means a text/markdown media type will > >>> Be less useful, because there is no 'superset of > >>> all other flavors' because two flavors could use > >>> the same constructs in conflicting ways. > >>> > >>> Larry > >>> -- > >>> http://larry.masinter.net > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> apps-discuss mailing list > >>> apps-discuss@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss > >> > >> -- > >> Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> apps-discuss mailing list > >> apps-discuss@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss > -- > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ > _______________________________________________ > apps-discuss mailing list > apps-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss
- [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media Type … Sean Leonard
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Dave Cridland
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Sean Leonard
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Dave Cridland
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Sean Leonard
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Sean Leonard
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Larry Masinter
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Mark Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Sean Leonard
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Karl Dubost
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Sean Leonard
- Re: [apps-discuss] New I-D: text/markdown Media T… Ned Freed