Re: [apps-discuss] RFC 5785: Registration of .well-known services under HTTP to First Come

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Thu, 14 January 2016 05:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] RFC 5785: Registration of .well-known services under HTTP to First Come
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I would prefer something shorter, how about /.well-known/phb/

And since I would fill it with the well known services registry,
shouldn't it be as short as possible. And isn't phb a little ego
centric. I suggest /.well-known// That does exactly what I want (after
canonicalization).


Seriously, I am not buying the need to review here.


On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:34 AM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> You can also register /.well-known/phks-protocols/ and do whatever you like under it.
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>> On 14 Jan 2016, at 4:26 pm, Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>>> SRV isn't used by HTTP, so I'm not seeing a strong motivation for aligning the policies. Given that .well-known is a mechanism for allocating a URL on *every* Web server on the planet, and that space is ceded to standard uses by server authorities (the actual owners of that name space), having a higher bar to entry than FCFS seems like a good idea.
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>> SRV is used for discovery of many Web Services. The obvious pattern being:
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>> 1) Resolve the DNS address to a host using the SRV record
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>> 2) Use the .well-known convention to identify the service endpoint on
>> the specified host.
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>> I do not see the logic in your assertion that space is being reserved
>> on every Web server on the planet. That was already done when
>> .well-known was allocated in the first place. The question now being
>> how to best prevent conflicts within that space.
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>> Having to pass through a review to get a code point allocation is
>> empirically the least effective way of avoiding conflict.
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>> Since I have a code generator I can simply write something into the
>> tool to generate the request for the code point allocation and send it
>> to the registry review expert but I suspect that would not be
>> appreciated.
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