Re: [apps-discuss] Draft for trace fields registry
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Wed, 18 January 2012 05:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Draft for trace fields registry
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Hi John, At 18:10 17-01-2012, John Levine wrote: >I wrote a draft to add a trace column to the existing header field >registry. This is mostly about the registry; SM's draft (which I >didn't know he was writing) is more about what trace fields are. Yes. I wrote about Trace fields in response to the latest discussions on this list. draft-moonesamy-mail-trace-fields-00 provides some background information about Trace fields, hence the reference to RFC 4871 (obsolete). BTW, I already know about the invalid RFC822 reference. The draft does not mention the registry part as you mentioned that you might work on that. I only covered mail-related specifications mentioning Trace fields up to "VBR-Info" as they are related to the DKIM work. RFC 5598 is not mentioned as it uses RFC 2505 (antispam) to reference "trace information". I don't feel strongly about the question of Trace fields. I'll comment on draft-levine-trace-header-registry-00 as we looked at the topic from different viewpoints. Section 3.6 of RFC 5322 discusses about "trace header field" and has a requirement for not reordering them and a recommendation for keeping them in blocks (see issues in Section 6 of draft-moonesamy-mail-trace-fields-00). Section 3.1 of draft-levine-trace-header-registry-00 keeps the requirement and drops the recommendation. Such a change would generate some on-list discussion. My preference is to use "trace information" to discuss about documenting the progress of a message through the e-mail system (second paragraph of Section 3.1 of your draft). Section 3.6 of RFC 5322 mentions that: "the trace header fields and resent header fields MUST NOT be reordered" I'll defer to the editor of RFC 5322 as to what exactly is a Trace field as it is not clear given the text quoted above and what's in Section 3.6.7. As a reply to Ned's question, I am ok with combining the two drafts if John thinks that the material is appropriate for the topic he is tackling. Regards, S. Moonesamy
- [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-receiv… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Trace headers, was Adoption of… John R. Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Trace headers, was Adoption of… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Trace headers, was Adoption of… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Alessandro Vesely
- [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Trace headers, was Adoption of… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Trace headers, was Adoption of… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Nico Williams
- [apps-discuss] Draft for trace fields registry John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Draft for trace fields registry Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Draft for trace fields registry S Moonesamy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Draft for trace fields registry Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John C Klensin
- [apps-discuss] Stanzas of trace fields, was Adopt… Alessandro Vesely