Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on draft-wilde-profile-link-00
Erik Wilde <dret@berkeley.edu> Thu, 12 April 2012 16:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on draft-wilde-profile-link-00
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hello jan. On 2012-04-12 00:12 , Jan Algermissen wrote: > On Apr 12, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Erik Wilde wrote: >> the idea is to be able to check for the profile URI to see whether a feed i have discovered supports atompub or not. if it does, i might show an "upload" feature in a UI that otherwise i would not show. without the feed advertising its capabilities, i cannot know, and i certainly don't want to create a fake post to test whether atompub is supported or not. > Ok (though I personally would not see a profile as saying something about the resource, but about the payload) yes, we have agreement on this. a profile (quoting from the -01 text i am writing now) "are additional semantics that can be used to process a resource representation, such as constraints, conventions, extensions, or any other aspects that do not alter the basic media type semantics." if a feed indicates it supports atompub, that extends what to expect in the feed, and in case of atompub, it also extends the feed's behavior. like i said in a response to mark, i think the line between "format conventions" and "behavior" is fuzzy. but i'd argue that the 'atompub profile' definitely would be specific for the representation (the atompub enabled feed), because a different representation of the collection resource might very well expose a different mechanism to provide write access to the collection. cheers, dret. -- erik wilde | mailto:dret@berkeley.edu - tel:+1-510-2061079 | | UC Berkeley - School of Information (ISchool) | | http://dret.net/netdret http://twitter.com/dret |
- [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-wilde-profile-li… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-wilde-profil… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-wilde-profil… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Jan Algermissen
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-wilde-profil… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Jan Algermissen
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Erik Wilde
- [apps-discuss] draft-wilde-profile-link-01 publis… Erik Wilde
- [apps-discuss] R: draft-wilde-profile-link-01 pub… Goix Laurent Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] draft-wilde-profile-link-01 pu… Erik Wilde
- [apps-discuss] R: draft-wilde-profile-link-01 pub… Goix Laurent Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] draft-wilde-profile-link-01 pu… Erik Wilde
- [apps-discuss] R: draft-wilde-profile-link-01 pub… Goix Laurent Walter
- [apps-discuss] draft-wilde-profile-link-02 publis… Erik Wilde