Re: [apps-discuss] draft-santos-smtpgrey-02: SMTP Service Extension for Greylisting Operations

Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> Wed, 05 February 2014 13:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] draft-santos-smtpgrey-02: SMTP Service Extension for Greylisting Operations
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I see it as a "marketing" problem.

On 2/5/2014 3:08 AM, Salvatore Loreto wrote:
> exactly here the issue is to understand how many people are really interested in the issue
> and especially if the ones interested they can spend enough cycles to review and provide
> comments so to let the draft progress
>
> /Salvatore
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> On Feb 5, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Claudio Allocchio <Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote:
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>>
>> Let me add a little detail to the discussion:
>>
>> if you check the statistics of the Apps WG list and see what's proposed on it, you will notice that practially all "SMTP related" stuff ends up here. There is a valid reason for this, whichi is:
>>
>> - there is no (and there is no need for a specific) SMTP updates/maintenance WG in the IETF;
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>> - most of the people interested in the topic are actually on Apps WG itself.
>>
>> The real problem is manpower to follow up the drafts after people gives enough +1s to adopt them. As we are chartered quite openly (and this is ok for THIS WG) and of course are a mix of all Apps Area expertises, of course I do not presume that 60% of WG people stand up and work an any specific draft, just because it does not fit their own expertise area: I'd not stand up for an XML draft for actual work, just because I do not feel I'm the righ person to do that for example, but I'll put my +1 on XML drafts I believe are worth... and the expect the XML experts to contribute. Given this personal humble assumption, I'm not saying that we should formally "wheight" the +1s according the people's expertise area, but at least to think about this when we take adotion decisions.
>>
>> Again, the mail problem to face, not only in the specifi Apps WG, is the actual manpower avilable... I've the unpleaseant feeling, also coordinating the AppsDir, that it is decreasing because of various reasons.
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>> my little 2 cents...
>>
>> all the best
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