Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation-04.txt
Simon Barber <simon@superduper.net> Sat, 09 May 2015 03:43 UTC
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I have a couple of concerns with the recommendations of this document as they stand. Firstly - implementing AQM widely will reduce or even possibly completely remove the ability to use delay based congestion control in order to provide a low priority or background service. I think there should be a recommendation that if you are implementing AQM then you should also implement a low priority service using DSCP, e.g. CS1. This will enable these low priority applications to continue to work in an environment where AQM is increasingly deployed. Unlike DSCPs that give higher priority access to the network, a background or low priority DSCP is not going to be gamed to get better service! Secondly, there is a recommendation that AQM be implemented both within classes of service, and across all classes of service. This does not make sense. If you are implementing AQM across multiple classes of service, then you are making marks or drops while ignoring what class the data belongs to. This destroys the very unfairness that you wanted to achieve by implementing the classes in the first place. Simon On 5/14/2014 11:00 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Active Queue Management and Packet Scheduling Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : IETF Recommendations Regarding Active Queue Management > Authors : Fred Baker > Godred Fairhurst > Filename : draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation-04.txt > Pages : 25 > Date : 2014-05-14 > > Abstract: > This memo presents recommendations to the Internet community > concerning measures to improve and preserve Internet performance. It > presents a strong recommendation for testing, standardization, and > widespread deployment of active queue management (AQM) in network > devices, to improve the performance of today's Internet. It also > urges a concerted effort of research, measurement, and ultimate > deployment of AQM mechanisms to protect the Internet from flows that > are not sufficiently responsive to congestion notification. > > The note largely repeats the recommendations of RFC 2309, updated > after fifteen years of experience and new research. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation-04 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation-04 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > aqm mailing list > aqm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/aqm
- [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation-0… internet-drafts
- [aqm] [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommenda… gorry
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Simon Barber
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… John Leslie
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Wesley Eddy
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Simon Barber
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Simon Barber
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… gorry
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Simon Barber
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Bless, Roland (TM)
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Bless, Roland (TM)
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Jonathan Morton
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… gorry
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Dave Taht
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Dave Taht
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Jonathan Morton
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… David Lang
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Dave Taht
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Dave Taht
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Simon Barber
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Dave Taht
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Simon Barber
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Simon Barber
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Simon Barber
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Dave Taht
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Simon Barber
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Simon Barber
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Mikael Abrahamsson
- [aqm] A Diffserv primer Jonathan Morton
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [aqm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-aqm-recommendati… Dario Rossi