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Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolution program

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Sun, 25 August 2019 18:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolution program
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> On Aug 25, 2019, at 11:07 AM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:
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>> On 25/8/19 20:07, Joe Touch wrote:
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>>> On Aug 25, 2019, at 9:48 AM, John Leslie <john@jlc.net
>>> <mailto:john@jlc.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Yes, QUIC employs UDP because they despaired of deploying a new
>>> transport protocol.
>>> 
>>>   However, architecture-discuss@iab.org
>>> <mailto:architecture-discuss@iab.org> _really_shouldn't_ abandon hope
>>> of deploying a new transport protocol: it's _hard_; it may not happen in
>>> my lifetime; but the Internet, or its replacement, _will_ need a new
>>> transport procotol some day...
>> 
>> IMO, it has a chance of happening when the IETF “grows up”.
>> 
>> Trust, but VERIFY.
>> 
>> The IETF started with the assumption that everyone wanted to play
>> together and play nice. That ship sailed decades ago.
>> 
>> The missing step is to create a validation suite and corresponding
>> official endorsement of compliance.
> 
> You mean something along the lines of "If you want to claim you provide
> Internet connectivity, then you *must* support all this"?

https://standards.ieee.org/content/ieee-standards/en/products-services/icap/index.html



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