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Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolution program

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Sun, 25 August 2019 17:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolution program
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> On Aug 25, 2019, at 9:48 AM, John Leslie <john@jlc.net> wrote:
> 
>   Yes, QUIC employs UDP because they despaired of deploying a new
> transport protocol.
> 
>   However, architecture-discuss@iab.org <mailto:architecture-discuss@iab.org> _really_shouldn't_ abandon hope
> of deploying a new transport protocol: it's _hard_; it may not happen in
> my lifetime; but the Internet, or its replacement, _will_ need a new
> transport procotol some day...

IMO, it has a chance of happening when the IETF “grows up”.

Trust, but VERIFY.

The IETF started with the assumption that everyone wanted to play together and play nice. That ship sailed decades ago.

The missing step is to create a validation suite and corresponding official endorsement of compliance.

Without that, we’re constantly stuck with the tragedy of the commons, which drives us to the worst of all implementations.

Joe

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