Re: [arch-d] Internet and Architecture as Art

[Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>]

Dear All,

What are beauties questioned, what are imaginations provoked, by the
Internet as a way to communicate --thus by its architecture, by its art...?

There are beauties bring ones to hopes: which are about next readings on
the Internet architecture --which are also about discursive productions...
Thus there are:
- technical readings on the Internet protocols (eg. RFCs www.rfc-editor.org)
- non-technical readings (eg. journal analyses, lectures)
- artistic readings (eg. cybergeography on conceptual and artistic)

There are also imaginations: thise ranging from a limited ARPANET
environment, to the Internet society (www.isoc.org), to "Information
Society" (www.itu.int on "Measuring Information Society" reports), to the
interplanetary Internet (www.ipnsig.org)...

To add what were just said about "hope": "What is hope which is not
non-hope also"? As we may say "It does not work any longer, but we still
have chances, let's take a look at solutions...". Those are what happen
with obsoleted or updated RFCs as there are (re)interpretations and
(re)evaluations...


Regard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra

Pada Senin, 06 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]> menulis:

> Dear All,
>
> To the same type of society referred by Lyotard, one with such a  large
> operation of capital, G. Deleuze and F. Guattari suggested a pedagogy on
> philosophy of which art was also introduced in terms of percept and affect
> ("What is Philosophy?", 1994--while I red on its Indonesian version).
>
> Thus, the Internet architecture may be understood as representing
> cyber-network art in collaboration with cyber-network science: yet what
>  beauties are questioned, and what imaginations are provoked, by such an
> architecture, by such an art, which is about a function of
> communication...? --those beauties and imaginations of a way to
> communicate...?
>
>
>
>
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
> Pada Minggu, 05 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]> menulis:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Ching F.D.K's "Architecture: Form, Space and Order" made no detail on
>> what art is. If art is understood as a way of questioning on beauty and of
>> provoking imagination: supposedly he meant those elements of art to worked
>> out by those form, space and order in collaboration.
>>
>> There was "an architecture of signature" in relation with networked city
>> (Castells, M., "Networked City: Resaux, espace, societe) supposedly
>> concerning with network art.
>>
>> While in relation with the computer as a machine, supposedly "cyber" and
>> "network" provide us with such nuances of the same thing: such
>> communication and control of network system of machine. Thus we may say
>> "cyber-network art"...
>>
>> In a society of flexible network of language game, "postmodern art"
>> represents an enthusiasm to affirm non-presence --examplified by those
>> works of Marcel Proust and James Joyce (Lyotard, J.F, "What is
>> Postmodernism" in "The Postmodern Condition: A Report on Knowledge, 1989
>> --while I red on its Indonesian version").
>>
>> Regarding with the network of language game we may look at a situation of
>> "technological context of man made possible by language" so that man could
>> think of the Internet in relation with art, city and space . So it was said
>> by Bolhuis, J. et all, "How Could Language Have Evolved"? p. 6)
>>
>>  http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/90974
>>
>> http://dspace.mit.edu/openaccess-disseminate/1721.1/90974
>>
>>
>>
>> Regard,
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>> Pada Sabtu, 04 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]> menulis:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Discourses on "Network" and Architecture.
>>>
>>> The Internet: the interconnected networks...
>>>
>>> Architecture is itself understood as art and science of  building;
>>> design or style of building (Oxford English Dictionary, "Green Yellow"
>>> edition). While "network" as complex system of lines that cross; connected
>>> system (ibid).
>>>
>>> There was an etymology of "network" attempted by Brigg, K. (2004/2005)
>>>
>>> www.uvm.edu/pdodds/files/papers/others/2005/*briggs*2005a.pdf
>>>
>>> Today among others we find the English terms work in human cultures
>>> --with their translations in other languages...
>>>
>>> In science we find the term "network" in computer science, social
>>> science, and even an emerging scientific discipline of network science.
>>>
>>> "Advanced Network Architecture"
>>>
>>> http://groups.csail.mit.edu/ana/Publications/index.html
>>>
>>> "Informationalism, Technology and Network Society"
>>>
>>> https://annenberg.usc.edu/sites/default/files/2015/04/28/Inf
>>> ormationalism%2C%20Networks%20and%20the%20Network%20Society.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> "Network Science"
>>>
>>> http://networkscience.com
>>>
>>> As a combination of science and art, concerning with buliding houses and
>>> the like and the related ones, architecture recognizes "network" as part of
>>> configuring paths that connect established points in space (Ching, F.D.K,
>>> 2007, p. 265).
>>>
>>>
>>> Regard,
>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>
>>> Pada Kamis, 02 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>
>>> menulis:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> (I missed to attach the web address below...)
>>>>
>>>> "The design Philosophy of the DARPA Internet Protocols" (Clarck, D.D,
>>>> (1988/1995?))
>>>>
>>>> http://groups.csail.mit.edu/ana/Publications/PubPDFs/The%20d
>>>> esign%20philosophy%20of%20the%20DARPA%20internet%20protocols.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Regard,
>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>
>>>> Pada Kamis, 02 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>
>>>> menulis:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We may say that "architecture" is about "spaces formed according to
>>>>> ordering principles...".
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cyberspace" in "Tussle in Cyberspace..." I mentioned earlier was
>>>>> about the Internet itself in which interests living...
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile "cyberorder" is supposedly what was concerned by the RFC
>>>>> 1958 "Architectural Principles of the Internet": connectivity, Internet
>>>>> protocol, and end-to-end intellegence.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what is supposedly the stylistic forms suggested by those
>>>>> "cyberspace" and "cyberorders"...--may we say that it is about "net" as it
>>>>> is about interconnected networks, or the Internet...?
>>>>>
>>>>> "The design Philosophy of the DARPA Internet Protocols" (Clarck, D.D,
>>>>> (1988/1995?))
>>>>>
>>>>> with a historical note on the Internet Architecture RFC 3869 (2004).
>>>>>
>>>>> Here, if we may, may we say about network architecture as art --of
>>>>> which the Internet currently understood as computer-based networks of
>>>>> communications is part...? --as Ching, F.D.K used as illustrations on his
>>>>> concept of "network" in his architectural reading "Architecture: Form,
>>>>> Space, and Order" (2007)...?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regard,
>>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>>
>>>>> Pada Selasa, 30 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>
>>>>> menulis:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cyberspace", tussle and the evolution of the network's technical
>>>>>> architecture: it is in "Tussle in Cyberspace: Defining Tomorrow's Internet"
>>>>>> (Clarck, D. D et all, IEE/ACM Transactions on Networking, 2005)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://groups.csail.mit.edu/ana/Publications/PubPDFs/Tussle%
>>>>>> 20in%20Cyberspace%20Defining%20Tomorrows%20Internet%202005's
>>>>>> %20Internet.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regard,
>>>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pada Selasa, 30 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>
>>>>>> menulis:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To say "Architecture: Form, Space and Order": would it be
>>>>>>> legitimated to say "The Internet Architecture: Form, Space and Order"...?
>>>>>>> --thus it is about "Cyber Form, Cyber Space, and Cyber Order"...?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An article supposedly guides a reading journey:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.espacestemps.net/articles/cyber-geography-research/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The hypertext-linked address suggested (
>>>>>>> http://www.cybergeography.org) brought us to this page:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/staff/m.dodge/cybergeography/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regard,
>>>>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pada Kamis, 18 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>
>>>>>>> menulis:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (I wish that I do not repeate what were ever talked with in this
>>>>>>>> [e-mail].)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we may say about "Architecture" is/as "Art" --regarding what
>>>>>>>> Francis D.K. Ching said in his "Architecture: Form, Space and Order", John
>>>>>>>> Wiley & Sons Inc, 2007, p. IX--, then "Internet Architecture" is/as
>>>>>>>> "Internet Art".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thus supposedly this research --I finded out in such a "Library
>>>>>>>> Tour"-- may work for the connection:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ".art: Situating Internet Art in the Traditional Institution of
>>>>>>>> Contemporary Art" by Karen A. Verschooren (MIT, 2007)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/39149
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> discussing key players, institutions, and discourses on aesthetics,
>>>>>>>> economy, and exhibition methodologies to frame a sociological analysis...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Based on the definitions of Steve Dietz and Alexander Galloway and
>>>>>>>> inspired by Lisa
>>>>>>>> Gitelman's understanding of protocols, I will thus in this volume
>>>>>>>> define Internet art as
>>>>>>>> that set of artworks, which uses Internet technology for its
>>>>>>>> creation and presentation, and
>>>>>>>> is characterized by a play with protocols, be they technical,
>>>>>>>> economic, social or cultural". p.21
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regard,
>>>>>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note: To the matter I also ever sent the message to Information
>>>>>>>> Architecture Community Group "Information, Architecture, and Art (April
>>>>>>>> 18th 2019).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>