Re: [arch-d] Internet and Architecture as Art

[Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>]

Dear All,

To the same type of society referred by Lyotard, one with such a  large
operation of capital, G. Deleuze and F. Guattari suggested a pedagogy on
philosophy of which art was also introduced in terms of percept and affect
("What is Philosophy?", 1994--while I red on its Indonesian version).

Thus, the Internet architecture may be understood as representing
cyber-network art in collaboration with cyber-network science: yet what
 beauties are questioned, and what imaginations are provoked, by such an
architecture, by such an art, which is about a function of
communication...? --those beauties and imaginations of a way to
communicate...?




Regard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra

Pada Minggu, 05 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]> menulis:

> Dear All,
>
> Ching F.D.K's "Architecture: Form, Space and Order" made no detail on what
> art is. If art is understood as a way of questioning on beauty and of
> provoking imagination: supposedly he meant those elements of art to worked
> out by those form, space and order in collaboration.
>
> There was "an architecture of signature" in relation with networked city
> (Castells, M., "Networked City: Resaux, espace, societe) supposedly
> concerning with network art.
>
> While in relation with the computer as a machine, supposedly "cyber" and
> "network" provide us with such nuances of the same thing: such
> communication and control of network system of machine. Thus we may say
> "cyber-network art"...
>
> In a society of flexible network of language game, "postmodern art"
> represents an enthusiasm to affirm non-presence --examplified by those
> works of Marcel Proust and James Joyce (Lyotard, J.F, "What is
> Postmodernism" in "The Postmodern Condition: A Report on Knowledge, 1989
> --while I red on its Indonesian version").
>
> Regarding with the network of language game we may look at a situation of
> "technological context of man made possible by language" so that man could
> think of the Internet in relation with art, city and space . So it was said
> by Bolhuis, J. et all, "How Could Language Have Evolved"? p. 6)
>
>  http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/90974
>
> http://dspace.mit.edu/openaccess-disseminate/1721.1/90974
>
>
>
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
> Pada Sabtu, 04 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]> menulis:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Discourses on "Network" and Architecture.
>>
>> The Internet: the interconnected networks...
>>
>> Architecture is itself understood as art and science of  building; design
>> or style of building (Oxford English Dictionary, "Green Yellow" edition).
>> While "network" as complex system of lines that cross; connected system
>> (ibid).
>>
>> There was an etymology of "network" attempted by Brigg, K. (2004/2005)
>>
>> www.uvm.edu/pdodds/files/papers/others/2005/*briggs*2005a.pdf
>>
>> Today among others we find the English terms work in human cultures
>> --with their translations in other languages...
>>
>> In science we find the term "network" in computer science, social
>> science, and even an emerging scientific discipline of network science.
>>
>> "Advanced Network Architecture"
>>
>> http://groups.csail.mit.edu/ana/Publications/index.html
>>
>> "Informationalism, Technology and Network Society"
>>
>> https://annenberg.usc.edu/sites/default/files/2015/04/28/Inf
>> ormationalism%2C%20Networks%20and%20the%20Network%20Society.pdf
>>
>>
>> "Network Science"
>>
>> http://networkscience.com
>>
>> As a combination of science and art, concerning with buliding houses and
>> the like and the related ones, architecture recognizes "network" as part of
>> configuring paths that connect established points in space (Ching, F.D.K,
>> 2007, p. 265).
>>
>>
>> Regard,
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>> Pada Kamis, 02 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]> menulis:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> (I missed to attach the web address below...)
>>>
>>> "The design Philosophy of the DARPA Internet Protocols" (Clarck, D.D,
>>> (1988/1995?))
>>>
>>> http://groups.csail.mit.edu/ana/Publications/PubPDFs/The%20d
>>> esign%20philosophy%20of%20the%20DARPA%20internet%20protocols.pdf
>>>
>>> Regard,
>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>
>>> Pada Kamis, 02 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>
>>> menulis:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We may say that "architecture" is about "spaces formed according to
>>>> ordering principles...".
>>>>
>>>> "Cyberspace" in "Tussle in Cyberspace..." I mentioned earlier was about
>>>> the Internet itself in which interests living...
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile "cyberorder" is supposedly what was concerned by the RFC 1958
>>>> "Architectural Principles of the Internet": connectivity, Internet
>>>> protocol, and end-to-end intellegence.
>>>>
>>>> So what is supposedly the stylistic forms suggested by those
>>>> "cyberspace" and "cyberorders"...--may we say that it is about "net" as it
>>>> is about interconnected networks, or the Internet...?
>>>>
>>>> "The design Philosophy of the DARPA Internet Protocols" (Clarck, D.D,
>>>> (1988/1995?))
>>>>
>>>> with a historical note on the Internet Architecture RFC 3869 (2004).
>>>>
>>>> Here, if we may, may we say about network architecture as art --of
>>>> which the Internet currently understood as computer-based networks of
>>>> communications is part...? --as Ching, F.D.K used as illustrations on his
>>>> concept of "network" in his architectural reading "Architecture: Form,
>>>> Space, and Order" (2007)...?
>>>>
>>>> Regard,
>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>
>>>> Pada Selasa, 30 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>
>>>> menulis:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cyberspace", tussle and the evolution of the network's technical
>>>>> architecture: it is in "Tussle in Cyberspace: Defining Tomorrow's Internet"
>>>>> (Clarck, D. D et all, IEE/ACM Transactions on Networking, 2005)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.csail.mit.edu/ana/Publications/PubPDFs/Tussle%
>>>>> 20in%20Cyberspace%20Defining%20Tomorrows%20Internet%202005's
>>>>> %20Internet.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Regard,
>>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>>
>>>>> Pada Selasa, 30 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>
>>>>> menulis:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To say "Architecture: Form, Space and Order": would it be legitimated
>>>>>> to say "The Internet Architecture: Form, Space and Order"...? --thus it is
>>>>>> about "Cyber Form, Cyber Space, and Cyber Order"...?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An article supposedly guides a reading journey:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.espacestemps.net/articles/cyber-geography-research/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The hypertext-linked address suggested (http://www.cybergeography.org)
>>>>>> brought us to this page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/staff/m.dodge/cybergeography/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regard,
>>>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pada Kamis, 18 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>
>>>>>> menulis:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (I wish that I do not repeate what were ever talked with in this
>>>>>>> [e-mail].)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we may say about "Architecture" is/as "Art" --regarding what
>>>>>>> Francis D.K. Ching said in his "Architecture: Form, Space and Order", John
>>>>>>> Wiley & Sons Inc, 2007, p. IX--, then "Internet Architecture" is/as
>>>>>>> "Internet Art".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thus supposedly this research --I finded out in such a "Library
>>>>>>> Tour"-- may work for the connection:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ".art: Situating Internet Art in the Traditional Institution of
>>>>>>> Contemporary Art" by Karen A. Verschooren (MIT, 2007)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/39149
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> discussing key players, institutions, and discourses on aesthetics,
>>>>>>> economy, and exhibition methodologies to frame a sociological analysis...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Based on the definitions of Steve Dietz and Alexander Galloway and
>>>>>>> inspired by Lisa
>>>>>>> Gitelman's understanding of protocols, I will thus in this volume
>>>>>>> define Internet art as
>>>>>>> that set of artworks, which uses Internet technology for its
>>>>>>> creation and presentation, and
>>>>>>> is characterized by a play with protocols, be they technical,
>>>>>>> economic, social or cultural". p.21
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regard,
>>>>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note: To the matter I also ever sent the message to Information
>>>>>>> Architecture Community Group "Information, Architecture, and Art (April
>>>>>>> 18th 2019).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>