Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9486 <draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-ipv6-options-12> for your review

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Dear RFC editor,

Thanks a lot for your review and suggestions. Please see inline below.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
> Sent: Friday, 22 September 2023 07:02
> To: shwetha.bhandari@thoughtspot.com; Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
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> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; ippm-ads@ietf.org; ippm-chairs@ietf.org;
> marcus.ihlar@ericsson.com; martin.h.duke@gmail.com;
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> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9486 <draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-ipv6-options-
> 12> for your review
> 
> Authors,
> 
> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> 
> 1) <!--[rfced] Would you like to rephrase the RFC's title as follows in order
> for "(IOAM)" to be included, similar to the title of RFC 9197?
> 
> Original:
>   In-situ OAM IPv6 Options
> 
> Current:
>   In Situ Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) IPv6 Options
> 
> Perhaps:
>   IPv6 Options for In Situ Operations, Administration, and Maintenance
> (IOAM)
> -->

...FB: Agreed. Consistency with RFC 9197 is a good thing.

> 
> 
> 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in the
> title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search.
> -->

...FB: Given that this document is about the encapsulation of IOAM into IPv6 options, IMHO the keywords in the title are sufficient.

> 
> 
> 3) <!-- [rfced] Section 1: To closely match the text in RFC 9197, should this
> text be updated to add "that IOAM is enabled for"?
> 
> Original:
>    The terms "encapsulation" and "decapsulation" are used in this
>    document in the same way as in [RFC9197]: An IOAM encapsulating node
>    incorporates one or more IOAM-Option-Types into packets.
> 
> Perhaps:
>    The terms "encapsulation" and "decapsulation" are used in this
>    document in the same way as in [RFC9197]: An IOAM encapsulating node
>    incorporates one or more IOAM-Option-Types into packets
>    that IOAM is enabled for.
> -->

...FB: Agreed.


> 
> 
> 4) <!-- [rfced] Section 3: FYI, in order to make it clear that the list goes with
> "Option Data", we have updated the text for as follows and changed the
> indentation of the list. Please review and let us know if you prefer otherwise.
> 
> Original:
>    Option Data:  Variable-length field.  Option-Type-specific data.
> 
>    IOAM Option data is inserted as follows:
> 
>    1.  Pre-allocated Trace Option: ...
>        [...]
> 
>    2.  Proof of Transit Option: ...
>        [...]
> 
> 
> Current:
>    Option Data:  Variable-length field.  The data is specific to the
>       Option Type, as detailed below.
> 
>       Pre-allocated Trace Option: ...
> 
>          Option Type: ...
> 
>          IOAM Type: ...
> 
>       Proof of Transit Option: ...
> 
>          Option Type: ...
> 
>          IOAM Type: ...
> -->

...FB: Agreed. The enumeration also didn't make a lot of sense, i.e., the simple list like you have it now, is better.
> 
> 
> 5) <!--[rfced] Section 3: The term "4n alignment" has not been used in in
> other RFCs. Would you like to update it as follows or otherwise?
> (The surrounding text is included for context; it uses the phrase "a multiple-
> of-4 offset".)
> 
> Original:
>    All the IOAM IPv6 options defined here have alignment requirements.
>    Specifically, they all require 4n alignment.  This ensures that
>    fields specified in [RFC9197] are aligned at a multiple-of-4 offset
>    from the start of the hop-by-hop and destination options header.
> 
> Perhaps:
>    All the IOAM IPv6 options defined here have alignment requirements.
>    Specifically, they all require alignment on multiples of 4 bytes.
>    This ensures that fields specified in [RFC9197] are aligned at
>    a multiple-of-4 offset from the start of the hop-by-hop and
>    destination options header.
> -->

...FB: Agreed. 

> 
> 
> 6) <!--[rfced] Section 6: To confirm, is it intentional that the descriptions of
> the two option types exactly match?
> Both are "IOAM Destination Option and IOAM Hop-by-Hop Option", as
> shown in the registry (https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-
> parameters/).
> -->

...FB: This is probably the best we can do. TBD_1_0 (0x11) and TBD_1_1 (0x31) apply to both hop-by-hop as well as destination options.  An alternative would be to explicitly spell out which IOAM option types apply to which value - which would make the registry entries very long and also would require updating them, as soon as any newly defined IOAM option type would use a code point. 


> 
> 
> 7) <!-- [rfced] Contributors section
> 
> FYI, per Section 4.1.1 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"), we updated the
> document to have one section titled "Contributors". We have removed the
> sentence about "and the end of this document" and used the contact
> information from the "Contributors' Addresses".
> 
> Current:
>    Contributors
> 
>    This document was the collective effort of several authors.  The text
>    and content were contributed by the editors and the coauthors listed
>    below.
> 
>       Carlos Pignataro
>       [...]
> -->
> 

...FB: ACK. Makes sense.

> 
> 8) <!-- [rfced] Please review these terms and let us know if it's acceptable to
> update to the form on the right to match past RFCs, particularly RFC 9197.
> 
>    Edge to Edge Option -> Edge-to-Edge Option
>    IOAM data fields -> IOAM Data-Fields
>    IOAM E2E option -> IOAM E2E Option
>    IOAM Option Type -> OAM Option-Type
>    IOAM domain -> IOAM-Domain
>    IOAM-Opt-Type -> IOAM Opt-Type
>    IOAM-Option-Types -> IOAM Option-Types
>    Option Type vs. Option-Type -> Option-Type
>    Proof of Transit Option -> Proof of Transit Option-Type
> -->

...FB: Perfect. Thanks for driving towards consistency. 


> 
> 
> 9) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for abbreviations upon first
> use per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
> expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
> -->

...FB: Thanks. All your expansions look good to me.

> 
> 
> 10) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online
> Style Guide <https://www.rfc-
> editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
> and let us know if any changes are needed.
> 
> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should still
> be reviewed as a best practice.
> -->

..FB: Thanks. I did not catch any issues either. 

Thanks a lot for all the updates and suggested edits. With those, the doc looks ready to me.

Thanks, Frank
> 
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> RFC9486 (draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-ipv6-options-12)
> 
> Title            : In Situ Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM)
> IPv6 Options
> Author(s)        : S. Bhandari, Ed., F. Brockners, Ed.
> WG Chair(s)      : Marcus Ihlar, Tommy Pauly
> Area Director(s) : Martin Duke, Zaheduzzaman Sarker