Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9486 <draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-ipv6-options-12> for your review

Sarah Tarrant <starrant@amsl.com> Mon, 25 September 2023 18:32 UTC

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Hello Frank and Swetha,

Thank you for your replies.

We have updated the document according to Frank’s reply.

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 http://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9486.xml

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 https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9486.txt
 https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9486.pdf

Diff file showing all changes made during AUTH48:
 https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9486-auth48diff.html

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 https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9486-diff.html
 https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9486-rfcdiff.html (side-by-side diff)

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Thank you,

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> On Sep 23, 2023, at 8:08 AM, Shwetha <shwetha.bhandari@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks much for the review and suggestions. +1 to Frank's response to the suggestions. 
> Looks good to me.
> 
> Thanks
> Shwetha
> 
> On Sat, 23 Sept 2023, 6:21 pm Frank Brockners (fbrockne), <fbrockne@cisco.com> wrote:
> Dear RFC editor,
> 
> Thanks a lot for your review and suggestions. Please see inline below.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
> > Sent: Friday, 22 September 2023 07:02
> > To: shwetha.bhandari@thoughtspot.com; Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
> > <fbrockne@cisco.com>
> > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; ippm-ads@ietf.org; ippm-chairs@ietf.org;
> > marcus.ihlar@ericsson.com; martin.h.duke@gmail.com;
> > auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9486 <draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-ipv6-options-
> > 12> for your review
> > 
> > Authors,
> > 
> > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
> > necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> > 
> > 1) <!--[rfced] Would you like to rephrase the RFC's title as follows in order
> > for "(IOAM)" to be included, similar to the title of RFC 9197?
> > 
> > Original:
> >   In-situ OAM IPv6 Options
> > 
> > Current:
> >   In Situ Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) IPv6 Options
> > 
> > Perhaps:
> >   IPv6 Options for In Situ Operations, Administration, and Maintenance
> > (IOAM)
> > -->
> 
> ...FB: Agreed. Consistency with RFC 9197 is a good thing.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in the
> > title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search.
> > -->
> 
> ...FB: Given that this document is about the encapsulation of IOAM into IPv6 options, IMHO the keywords in the title are sufficient.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 3) <!-- [rfced] Section 1: To closely match the text in RFC 9197, should this
> > text be updated to add "that IOAM is enabled for"?
> > 
> > Original:
> >    The terms "encapsulation" and "decapsulation" are used in this
> >    document in the same way as in [RFC9197]: An IOAM encapsulating node
> >    incorporates one or more IOAM-Option-Types into packets.
> > 
> > Perhaps:
> >    The terms "encapsulation" and "decapsulation" are used in this
> >    document in the same way as in [RFC9197]: An IOAM encapsulating node
> >    incorporates one or more IOAM-Option-Types into packets
> >    that IOAM is enabled for.
> > -->
> 
> ...FB: Agreed.
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 4) <!-- [rfced] Section 3: FYI, in order to make it clear that the list goes with
> > "Option Data", we have updated the text for as follows and changed the
> > indentation of the list. Please review and let us know if you prefer otherwise.
> > 
> > Original:
> >    Option Data:  Variable-length field.  Option-Type-specific data.
> > 
> >    IOAM Option data is inserted as follows:
> > 
> >    1.  Pre-allocated Trace Option: ...
> >        [...]
> > 
> >    2.  Proof of Transit Option: ...
> >        [...]
> > 
> > 
> > Current:
> >    Option Data:  Variable-length field.  The data is specific to the
> >       Option Type, as detailed below.
> > 
> >       Pre-allocated Trace Option: ...
> > 
> >          Option Type: ...
> > 
> >          IOAM Type: ...
> > 
> >       Proof of Transit Option: ...
> > 
> >          Option Type: ...
> > 
> >          IOAM Type: ...
> > -->
> 
> ...FB: Agreed. The enumeration also didn't make a lot of sense, i.e., the simple list like you have it now, is better.
> > 
> > 
> > 5) <!--[rfced] Section 3: The term "4n alignment" has not been used in in
> > other RFCs. Would you like to update it as follows or otherwise?
> > (The surrounding text is included for context; it uses the phrase "a multiple-
> > of-4 offset".)
> > 
> > Original:
> >    All the IOAM IPv6 options defined here have alignment requirements.
> >    Specifically, they all require 4n alignment.  This ensures that
> >    fields specified in [RFC9197] are aligned at a multiple-of-4 offset
> >    from the start of the hop-by-hop and destination options header.
> > 
> > Perhaps:
> >    All the IOAM IPv6 options defined here have alignment requirements.
> >    Specifically, they all require alignment on multiples of 4 bytes.
> >    This ensures that fields specified in [RFC9197] are aligned at
> >    a multiple-of-4 offset from the start of the hop-by-hop and
> >    destination options header.
> > -->
> 
> ...FB: Agreed. 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 6) <!--[rfced] Section 6: To confirm, is it intentional that the descriptions of
> > the two option types exactly match?
> > Both are "IOAM Destination Option and IOAM Hop-by-Hop Option", as
> > shown in the registry (https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-
> > parameters/).
> > -->
> 
> ...FB: This is probably the best we can do. TBD_1_0 (0x11) and TBD_1_1 (0x31) apply to both hop-by-hop as well as destination options.  An alternative would be to explicitly spell out which IOAM option types apply to which value - which would make the registry entries very long and also would require updating them, as soon as any newly defined IOAM option type would use a code point. 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 7) <!-- [rfced] Contributors section
> > 
> > FYI, per Section 4.1.1 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"), we updated the
> > document to have one section titled "Contributors". We have removed the
> > sentence about "and the end of this document" and used the contact
> > information from the "Contributors' Addresses".
> > 
> > Current:
> >    Contributors
> > 
> >    This document was the collective effort of several authors.  The text
> >    and content were contributed by the editors and the coauthors listed
> >    below.
> > 
> >       Carlos Pignataro
> >       [...]
> > -->
> > 
> 
> ...FB: ACK. Makes sense.
> 
> > 
> > 8) <!-- [rfced] Please review these terms and let us know if it's acceptable to
> > update to the form on the right to match past RFCs, particularly RFC 9197.
> > 
> >    Edge to Edge Option -> Edge-to-Edge Option
> >    IOAM data fields -> IOAM Data-Fields
> >    IOAM E2E option -> IOAM E2E Option
> >    IOAM Option Type -> OAM Option-Type
> >    IOAM domain -> IOAM-Domain
> >    IOAM-Opt-Type -> IOAM Opt-Type
> >    IOAM-Option-Types -> IOAM Option-Types
> >    Option Type vs. Option-Type -> Option-Type
> >    Proof of Transit Option -> Proof of Transit Option-Type
> > -->
> 
> ...FB: Perfect. Thanks for driving towards consistency. 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 9) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for abbreviations upon first
> > use per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
> > expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
> > -->
> 
> ...FB: Thanks. All your expansions look good to me.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 10) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online
> > Style Guide <https://www.rfc-
> > editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
> > and let us know if any changes are needed.
> > 
> > Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should still
> > be reviewed as a best practice.
> > -->
> 
> ..FB: Thanks. I did not catch any issues either. 
> 
> Thanks a lot for all the updates and suggested edits. With those, the doc looks ready to me.
> 
> Thanks, Frank
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > RFC Editor/st/ar
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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> > --------------------------------------
> > RFC9486 (draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-ipv6-options-12)
> > 
> > Title            : In Situ Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM)
> > IPv6 Options
> > Author(s)        : S. Bhandari, Ed., F. Brockners, Ed.
> > WG Chair(s)      : Marcus Ihlar, Tommy Pauly
> > Area Director(s) : Martin Duke, Zaheduzzaman Sarker