Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-ietf-sidrops-rov-no-rr-08> for your review

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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-ietf-sidrops-rov-no-rr-08> for your review
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> On Oct 27, 2022, at 12:04 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
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> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
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> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been updated as
> follows: abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322
> ("RFC Style Guide") and words have been rearranged to avoid awkward
> hyphenation with the expansion. Please review.
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> Original:
>  RPKI-Based Policy Without Route Refresh
> 
> Current: 
>  Policy Based on the Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) without
>  Route Refresh
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> Original:
>   When doing RPKI-based Route Origin Validation (ROV) ([RFC6811] and [RFC8481]),
>   and similar RPKI-based policy, if such a BGP speaker receives new
>   RPKI data, it might not have kept paths previously marked as Invalid
>   etc.
> 
> a) We do not see "RPKI-based Route Origin Validation (ROV)" in RFCs 6811 and
> 8481. Are any updates needed here? Note that in RFC 9319, the following
> sentence was included:
> 
>   Please note that the term "RPKI-based Route Origin Validation" and the
>   corresponding acronym "RPKI-ROV" that are used in this document mean the same
>   as the term "Prefix Origin Validation" used in [RFC6811].
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> b) Is "etc." needed at the end of this sentence?
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> 4) <!-- [rfced] Please confirm that "it" is correct here. It seems that "it"
> refers to "BGP Route Refresh". Should "they" be used instead to refer to
> "implementations"? Please review and let us know if any updates are
> needed.
> 
> Original:
>   As Route Origin Validation dropping Invalids has deployed, some BGP
>   speaker implementations have been found which, when receiving new
>   RPKI data (VRPs, see [I-D.ietf-sidrops-8210bis]) issue a BGP Route
>   Refresh [RFC7313] to all sending BGP peers so that it can reevaluate
>   the received paths against the new data.
> -->
> 
> 
> 5) <!-- [rfced] Will it be clear to readers what "it" refers to in this sentence?
> 
> Original:
>   If new RPKI data arrive which cause operator policy to invalidate the
>   best route, and the BGP speaker did not keep the dropped routes, then
>   it would issue a route refresh, which this feature aims to prevent.
> -->
> 
> 
> 6) <!-- [rfced] Please review "global operation, CLI, YANG, etc." here. Also, may
> we update "storing" to "and store"?
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> Original:
>   As storing these routes could cause problems in resource constrained
>   devices, there MUST be a global operation, CLI, YANG, etc. allowing
>   the operator to enable this feature, storing the dropped routes.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   As storing these routes could cause problems in resource constrained
>   devices, there MUST be a global operation, CLI, YANG, or other mechanism that allows
>   the operator to enable this feature and store the dropped routes.
> -->
> 
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> 7) <!-- [rfced] Should "which" here read "that"? (For the difference between
> "which" and "that", please see the FAQ at https://www.rfc-editor.org/faq/#whichthat.)
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> Original:
>   Internet Exchange Points (IXPs) which provide [RFC7947] Route Servers
>   should be aware that some members could be causing an undue Route
>   Refresh load on the Route Servers and take appropriate administrative
>   and/or technical measures. 
> -->
> 
> 
> 8) <!-- [rfced] Terminology
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> a) We note inconsistencies in the terms listed below. We chose the form on the
> right. Please let us know any objections.
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> Route Server vs. route server
>  Note: The lowercase form is used in RFC 7947 and is more common in the RFC Series.
> 
> BGP Speaker vs. BGP speaker
> 
> 
> b) We see instances of both "Route Refresh" (capitalized) and "route
> refresh" (lowercase) in the document. Should the capitalization be
> consistent? Please review and let us know if any updates are needed.
> -->
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> 
> Thank you.
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> RFC Editor/st/rv
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> 
> 
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> RFC9324 (draft-ietf-sidrops-rov-no-rr-08)
> 
> Title            : RPKI-Based Policy Without Route Refresh
> Author(s)        : R. Bush, K. Patel, P. Smith, M. Tinka
> WG Chair(s)      : Keyur Patel, Chris Morrow
> 
> Area Director(s) : Warren Kumari, Robert Wilton
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