Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-ietf-sidrops-rov-no-rr-08> for your review
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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-ietf-sidrops-rov-no-rr-08> for your review
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Authors, This is a friendly reminder that we await answers to the questions below and your review of the document before continuing with the publication process. Thank you, RFC Editor/rv > On Oct 27, 2022, at 12:04 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: > > Authors, > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file. > > > 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been updated as > follows: abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 > ("RFC Style Guide") and words have been rearranged to avoid awkward > hyphenation with the expansion. Please review. > > Original: > RPKI-Based Policy Without Route Refresh > > Current: > Policy Based on the Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) without > Route Refresh > --> > > > 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in the > title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. > --> > > > 3) <!-- [rfced] We have two questions about this sentence: > > Original: > When doing RPKI-based Route Origin Validation (ROV) ([RFC6811] and [RFC8481]), > and similar RPKI-based policy, if such a BGP speaker receives new > RPKI data, it might not have kept paths previously marked as Invalid > etc. > > a) We do not see "RPKI-based Route Origin Validation (ROV)" in RFCs 6811 and > 8481. Are any updates needed here? Note that in RFC 9319, the following > sentence was included: > > Please note that the term "RPKI-based Route Origin Validation" and the > corresponding acronym "RPKI-ROV" that are used in this document mean the same > as the term "Prefix Origin Validation" used in [RFC6811]. > > b) Is "etc." needed at the end of this sentence? > --> > > > 4) <!-- [rfced] Please confirm that "it" is correct here. It seems that "it" > refers to "BGP Route Refresh". Should "they" be used instead to refer to > "implementations"? Please review and let us know if any updates are > needed. > > Original: > As Route Origin Validation dropping Invalids has deployed, some BGP > speaker implementations have been found which, when receiving new > RPKI data (VRPs, see [I-D.ietf-sidrops-8210bis]) issue a BGP Route > Refresh [RFC7313] to all sending BGP peers so that it can reevaluate > the received paths against the new data. > --> > > > 5) <!-- [rfced] Will it be clear to readers what "it" refers to in this sentence? > > Original: > If new RPKI data arrive which cause operator policy to invalidate the > best route, and the BGP speaker did not keep the dropped routes, then > it would issue a route refresh, which this feature aims to prevent. > --> > > > 6) <!-- [rfced] Please review "global operation, CLI, YANG, etc." here. Also, may > we update "storing" to "and store"? > > Original: > As storing these routes could cause problems in resource constrained > devices, there MUST be a global operation, CLI, YANG, etc. allowing > the operator to enable this feature, storing the dropped routes. > > Perhaps: > As storing these routes could cause problems in resource constrained > devices, there MUST be a global operation, CLI, YANG, or other mechanism that allows > the operator to enable this feature and store the dropped routes. > --> > > > 7) <!-- [rfced] Should "which" here read "that"? (For the difference between > "which" and "that", please see the FAQ at https://www.rfc-editor.org/faq/#whichthat.) > > Original: > Internet Exchange Points (IXPs) which provide [RFC7947] Route Servers > should be aware that some members could be causing an undue Route > Refresh load on the Route Servers and take appropriate administrative > and/or technical measures. > --> > > > 8) <!-- [rfced] Terminology > > a) We note inconsistencies in the terms listed below. We chose the form on the > right. Please let us know any objections. > > Route Server vs. route server > Note: The lowercase form is used in RFC 7947 and is more common in the RFC Series. > > BGP Speaker vs. BGP speaker > > > b) We see instances of both "Route Refresh" (capitalized) and "route > refresh" (lowercase) in the document. Should the capitalization be > consistent? 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- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-ietf-s… Rebecca VanRheenen
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-ietf-s… Randy Bush
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-ietf-s… Rebecca VanRheenen
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-ietf-s… warren
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-ietf-s… Rebecca VanRheenen
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-ietf-s… Randy Bush
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-ietf-s… Rebecca VanRheenen
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-ietf-s… Randy Bush
- [auth48] [AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-i… Rebecca VanRheenen
- Re: [auth48] [AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <dra… Randy Bush
- Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-i… Rebecca VanRheenen
- Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-i… Randy Bush
- Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-i… Philip Smith
- Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-i… Mark Tinka
- Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-i… Rebecca VanRheenen
- Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-i… Mark Tinka
- Re: [auth48] [AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <dra… Warren Kumari
- Re: [auth48] [AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <dra… Keyur Patel
- Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9324 <draft-i… Rebecca VanRheenen