Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds
Marshall Eubanks <marshall.eubanks@gmail.com> Wed, 14 September 2011 18:53 UTC
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From: Marshall Eubanks <marshall.eubanks@gmail.com>
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So far, there has not needed to be a negative leap second. I have thought for some time that if the outer core favored us with a negative leap second, leap seconds would be abandoned. However... On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Allison, Art <AAllison@nab.org> wrote: > As I understand it the UTC clock will monotonically increase after January > 2017 (no more leap seconds). > With either positive or negative leap seconds, a proper UTC clock will only monotonically increase now, just as the calendar only monotonically increases even given leap days. > What happens at 03:14:07 UTC<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time>on Tuesday, 19 January 2038 (32 > bit count overflow) will need to be addressed by someone, - your guess if > any equipment being built today will be in service then. **** > > See > http://www.agi.com/downloads/resources/white-papers/Debate-Over-UTC-and-Leap-Seconds.pdf > for more information.**** > > ** > That is a pending recommendation. It has not been approved. It comes up for approval at RA-12 *Geneva, in Switzerland, 16 January-20 January 2012.* * * *Regards* *Marshall* > ** > > ** ** > > *Art Allison* > Senior Director Advanced Engineering, Science and Technology > National Association of Broadcasters > 1771 N Street NW > Washington, DC 20036 > Phone 202 429 5418 > Fax 202 775 4981 > *www.nab.org* > *Advocacy Education Innovation* **** > > *From:* avt-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:avt-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Kevin > Gross > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:22 PM > *To:* avt@ietf.org > *Subject:* [AVTCORE] Leap seconds**** > > ** ** > > I am working on a means of using an IEEE 1588 timebase for RTP streaming. I > am aware of IEEE 1733 and will use that if necessary. First I am exploring > using existing NTP mapping function in RTCP sender reports. While > researching how to translate a 1588 timestamp to its NTP equivalent, I was > reminded of the wrinkle leap seconds put into things.**** > > ** ** > > The RTCP sender report maps RTP timestamps to NTP timestamps. RTP > timestamps are monotonically increasing. The RTP timestamps are based on UTC > and have an occasional wobble due to leap seconds. During the leap second, > there is an ambiguous mapping between RTP and NTP/UTC. I find no > recommendations in RFC 3550 for dealing with this.**** > > ** ** > > -- **** > > Kevin Gross**** > > AVA Networks**** > > +1-303-447-0517**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenance > avt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt > >
- [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Allison, Art
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Stephen Casner
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Stephen Casner
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Jamie Gordon
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds David Singer
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds David Singer
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds David Singer
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Qin Wu
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds David Singer
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Kevin Gross
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Qin Wu
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds David Singer
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds David Singer
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Qin Wu
- Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds Frederick, Ron