Re: [AVTCORE] Leap seconds

Marshall Eubanks <marshall.eubanks@gmail.com> Wed, 14 September 2011 18:53 UTC

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So far, there has not needed to be a negative leap second. I have  thought
for some time that if the outer core favored us with a negative leap second,
leap seconds would be abandoned. However...

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Allison, Art <AAllison@nab.org> wrote:

> As I understand it the UTC clock will monotonically increase after  January
> 2017 (no more leap seconds).
>

With either positive or negative leap seconds, a proper UTC clock will
only monotonically increase now, just as the calendar only monotonically
increases even given leap days.


> What happens at 03:14:07 UTC<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time>on Tuesday, 19 January 2038 (32
> bit count overflow) will need to be addressed by someone, - your guess if
> any equipment being built today will be in service then. ****
>
> See
> http://www.agi.com/downloads/resources/white-papers/Debate-Over-UTC-and-Leap-Seconds.pdf
> for more information.****
>
> **
>

That is a pending recommendation. It has not been approved. It comes up for
approval at RA-12 *Geneva, in Switzerland, 16 January-20 January 2012.*
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*Regards*
*Marshall*




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> *From:* avt-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:avt-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Kevin
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> I am working on a means of using an IEEE 1588 timebase for RTP streaming. I
> am aware of IEEE 1733 and will use that if necessary. First I am exploring
> using existing NTP mapping function in RTCP sender reports. While
> researching how to translate a 1588 timestamp to its NTP equivalent, I was
> reminded of the wrinkle leap seconds put into things.****
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> The RTCP sender report maps RTP timestamps to NTP timestamps. RTP
> timestamps are monotonically increasing. The RTP timestamps are based on UTC
> and have an occasional wobble due to leap seconds. During the leap second,
> there is an ambiguous mapping between RTP and NTP/UTC. I find no
> recommendations in RFC 3550 for dealing with this.****
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