Re: [babel] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-babel-applicability-07: (with COMMENT)

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> Mon, 05 August 2019 17:00 UTC

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From: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>
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Subject: Re: [babel] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-babel-applicability-07: (with COMMENT)
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>> So there's not much I can do at this time.  If you know otherwise, please
>> let me know.

> In that case I think not making the claims is a better option.  The one
> about bugs seems particularly problematic

As far as bug resistence is concerned -- I agree.  This has been weakened
in -08 at the prompting of Éric Vyncke, please let me know if you with me
to weaken it further.

As far as the other two properties are concerned (unusual networks and
unusual metrics), I must most humbly disagree.  There is a fair body of
circumstantial evidence that favours these claims, such as the references
[DELAY-BASED], [REAL-WORLD] and [BRIDGING-LAYERS] of this document, as
well as a number of experiments [1,2] that I don't feel comfortable citing
at the current time.

[1] http://people.ac.upc.edu/leandro/pubs/eomrpfwcn.pdf
[2] https://www.irif.fr/~jch/software/babel/battlemeshv10.html

Sorry for that.

-- Juliusz